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Contents 1 Stryker MGS not transportable by C130 2 Stryker mobile gun system 3 Cancelled? 4 Images? 5 appropriate use of tags 6 Link to G7 Howitzer

[edit] Stryker MGS not transportable by C130

Uh, the Stryker MGS is not -repeat not- transportable by C130. Its weight of 41,000lbs puts it at just a little too heavy to br carried by a Herc. -69.228.43.9 23:48, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Actually a Herc can carry it, just barely. It requires that some parts be removed however. AllStarZ 20:31, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

My understanding is that it is the height of Piranha derivatives other than the MG-armed Stryker prevents them from driving off a Hercules and straight into battle -- not their weight. My understanding is that the disassembly they require is to reduce the height. And that the removed pieces travel in the same plane.

[edit] Stryker mobile gun system

The Stryker mobile gun system page should be merged into this page. Dudtz 8/3/06 4:26 PM EST

I've redirected it. I don't think it contained any new information that isn't covered here or in Stryker. —Michael Z. 2006-08-03 20:49 Z

Okay. Dudtz 8/4/06 3:02 PM EST

[edit] Cancelled?

"List of Vehicles" says it's in active service, but other sources say it's cancelled. Can someone update me on that? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.16.54.240 (talk • contribs) 02:10, September 20, 2006 (UTC).

If those other sources happen to be sites that refer to the M113 as the "Gavin", I'd take most things they write about the Stryker with a grain of salt. =) Here's an article from the Army's own website about a unit from the 4th Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division receiving their Stryker Mobile Gun Systems. --Edward Sandstig 18:58, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

There has been talk that the Canadians may cancel their MGS purchases. The original order was placed by the government under the previous ruling party. With the control switch over to a party with a perceived more pro-military stance, some generals in the Canadian Army are trying to convince the new government to cancel the MGS (which is not a tank) and keep the Canadian Leopard C2 (which is a tank based on the German Leopard 1 and not the Leopard 2). These actions have spurred further online speculation, like the Canadians following the Austrailian lead and buy up M1A1 tanks. HOWEVER, there still has been no notification of an actual cancellation. There's just talk. Vstr 05:31, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

In fact the Leopard C2s were being liquidated in view of the intended adoption of the MGS, but that was halted, with about half of the tanks still in service. Now a squadron will be sent to Afghanistan. I don't know of any official announcements, but nothing is being said about plans for adopting the MGS. —Michael Z. 2006-09-24 16:46 Z

[edit] Images?

Can someone explain why the pictures were removed? -- Geo Swan 00:37, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Edit on M102 cannon. I am changing the M102 cannon reference. The MGS uses a variant of the M68 105mm gun, not the M102 howitzer, which is traditionally an indirect fire artillery piece (except on the AC-130, a most unique application).

[edit] appropriate use of tags

Someone put a {copyvio} on this page. I believe it is inappropriate. WP:COPYVIO tells editors who think they detect a copyright violation to see whether they can wind the article back to a time before the copyrighted material was added. I started this article. I started it from scratch, so, I know this is possible.

The person who added the tag didn't complete the copyvio procedure. Otherwise I would add this note on the copyvio forum.

Cheers! -- Geo Swan 05:34, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Here's the problem, someone say that the text posted was a duplicate, without bothering to check the references first. Everything is properly cited (but the article is definitely not unique to wikipedia). While not plagiarism in the sense that they pretend it's theirs, it's certainly copyvio because they copied word for word the content of that website, regardless of whether or not its properly cited. // 3R1C 16:47, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Link to G7 Howitzer

Is this the system described in the G7 howitzer article? If so, shouldn't there be some mention of the G7 in the article? Also, if it is mounting a 105mm howitzer gun stock, is it really intended to function in the same way as a battle tank, or is its role intended to be that of mobile artillery? -Kieran 13:47, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Its not. The MGS uses a Tank-type High velocity 105MM Gun rather than a howitzer, the MGS's role is to provide mobile direct fire support rather than either the indirect fire Role the G7 fills, or the modern MBT role, in effect the MGS's role is somewhere between the two. The useless one 18:30, 14 March 2007 (UTC)