User talk:Valenciano

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Djegan 20:35, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for the welcome I'm looking forward to adding more. Valenciano 20:46, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

1 Welcome to Wikipedia
2 Reply re: Penalty Shoot out section
3 Irish Republicanism
4 Bobby Sands
5 Cortes
6 Valencia
7 Swans vs Sheffield United
8 Trainspotting (film)
9 PAGE HELP!!

[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia

Good to see you here, mucker. Gerry Lynch 15:20, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Reply re: Penalty Shoot out section

Hi Valenciano,

Please see my reply to your message on my talk page.

Cheers, --Daveb 11:24, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Irish Republicanism

Your contribution of voting ratios is very useful, but it is really important that you cite your sources. --Red King 00:01, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for that. The article is much improved by your edits. --Red King 18:37, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bobby Sands

I noticed that you changed a part of my edit and the reason that you gave was that you were reverting POV. I understand that you see the mention of Bobby Sands of being a terrorist as being POV and you would obviously be correct, however it is the fans of Rangers who sing songs about him who hold this view point. Blanking out POV is not wikipedia policy where it is clear that the POV belongs to one group of people such as in this case. --Karatekid7 10:34, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cortes

Yo,

I noticed the Cortes Generales article is little more than a history that ends abruptly in 1978. Wonder could you apply your considerable talents to it? Gerry Lynch 12:30, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Valencia

Hello, I reverted your edit to Valencia, why would you claim you were removing spam, yet what you were really doing was redirecting the page to Valencia (city)? KOS | talk 11:49, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Swans vs Sheffield United

May I ask how you don't think a League One side beating a Premiership team 3-0 at the Premiership team's Home ground (Largest goal margin for an away side of all of the "Giant Killers") is not a notable result? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Whitecyda (talk • contribs) 03:14, 17 January 2007 (UTC).

No disrespect to Swansea but the whole point of the section is FAMOUS shock results. A number of us have agreed on the talk page of the FA Cup article that there should be a high bar to stop the list expanding too much. In this case Swansea are riding high in League one and Sheffield Utd playing poorly and battling relegation so while it was a minor surprise it's hardly a famous shock, in fact I doubt anyone outside of Swansea or Sheffield will remember it in a years time. However it might be a good idea to also post your thoughts on the talk page of the article. Valenciano 13:41, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trainspotting (film)

I disagree with a couple of your edits. First of all the penis thing seems like original research, or at least your own interpretation of it. Secondly there are indeed high schools in Scotland, very very many of them. Best wishes, --Guinnog 21:46, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi thanks for the reply - if you could elaborate on your problem with the edits I'll be happy to reconsider them.

With regards to what you have said so far, the school that Diane goes to whether a high school or not (and importantly we aren't told which) is not relevant. The point is, as I amended it, that she's below the age for consensual sex.

On the second point my edit was to change

"That night when Gail tries to reopen their sex life"

to "start their sex life"

I don't believe it's original research at all. There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever from the film that they'd ever had sex so saying that they were 'reopening' it is lacking any factual basis. Evidence that they have never had sex is abundant. Aside from the penis comments there is the exchange between Gail and Spud outside the night club. Gail tells him what kind of lover she expects him to be which certainly implies she doesn't know.

The key bits are the highlighted bits in the exchange between Tommy and Spud in the club which goes as follows

Tommy: "How's it going with Gail?"

Spud: " No joy yet .... Nightmare right She told me she didn't want our relationship to start out on a physical basis as that's how it's principally going to be defined from then on."

I really don't see how anyone can conclude from all that that they'd ever had sex before. Valenciano 01:46, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Fair points. We could just say "had sex"? --Guinnog 01:54, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

I also want to say sorry, I was a bit brusque in the first message. By "original research" I meant that where there is mystery in a film or a book we should just leave the mystery here too. It seems unverifiable if they did or didn't have sex before, and to speculate in our coverage of it seems to be beyond our remit. But I should have also said, and will say it now that it was a good edit. Next time I'll just refine the edit rather than grouching. I think it was the High School thing that piqued me; I live in Scotland and many, maybe most schools at that age range (12-16) call themselves that. She certainly wasn't a Primary School student, which would be the next age range down. But just saying underage is fine. --Guinnog 02:01, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

No probs and there was no offence taken and so no need for an apology especially since I admit that I didn't know there were High Schools in Scotland :) Your point about whether they previously had sex is fair enough so I've re-edited it to cut out the speculation. Cheers, Valenciano 02:08, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] PAGE HELP!!

Can you visit my page and comment on it? I want some advice on making it more catchy, and I like the set up of yours. I am not a new user. Read my little sandboxes like LongRiver Ledger and NEOPETSetc. and comment MAINLY on those please! THIS GOES FOR EVERYONE!! PLEASE VISIT AND COMMENT!! thanx!! ( saw you on chocho's page)BEATLES RULE!!! go fonz! 21:51, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

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