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[edit] Problems with other users
If users have a problem with each other, Wikipedia has a mechanism for resolving disputes before the accusation stage - see Resolving disputes. Users should 'assume good faith' in each other and, if things escalate in the negative, should 'disengage' from each other until they cease hostilities. A Sniper
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Regarding your vandalism of my user page.[1] I do not "blank" my talkpage, I archive it... there is a large difference. See; Wikipedia:How_to_archive_a_talk_page for more information... no need to thank me. - Deathrocker 02:37, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
- Nothing about my edits to the Greg Leon article fall under vandalism, try reading the article on it, Greg. You however, have commited clear examples of simple vandalism by blanking tags.. without finding sourced to replace them. And creating abusive sock puppets to harrass people.[2] Also, for the record, there is nothing factually inacurate about by edit, so what are you complaining about? - Deathrocker 23:33, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Don't violate policy by blanking please, I've shown you previously how to archive. - Deathrocker 04:50, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Greg Leon
Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, as you did to Greg Leon, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Deathrocker 04:49, 8 January 2007 (UTC) (please stop)
You are in violation of clear examples of simple vandalism.[3] You re-added numerous links to non offical websites of the subject (this is spam), you vandalised cited material from interview with Leon by blanking it and its reference. you blanked tags in relation to WP:WEASEL and WP:CITE issues... without finding sourced for them. I suggest you stop this behaviour at once it could lead to a block. - Deathrocker 04:57, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] When are you going to stop..?
Your ridiculous edits to articles?... its bad enough the vandalism (source blanking, tag blanking, adding false information) to Greg Leon[4]. The blanking of this page and claiming others are vandalising it, when it is a blatant lie on your part as others are only attempting to communicate with you.[5]
Your edits/reverting on Motley Crue are just as bad... the Managers assistant is not notable. The article is about a multi-million selling band... we don't need a biography of a guy who use to fetch coffee for their manager putting in there... you don't see that on any other bands articles (see; The Beatles, The Rolling Stones). Same could be said for information about roadies... it doesn't belong in an encyclopedia, capish? Also... you keep adding information about some random guy the drummer played with before joining the band, also not relevent.. you don't see all the members of Rockcandy, London, White Horse, Sister.. or the rest of Suite 19 listed. So in keeping with consistancy, neither should the other guy.
I've attempted to communicate with you numerous times, pointing you in the direction of the Wikipedia policies, etc... but I am loosing my patience, perhaps you are just doing to to troll; but ill try to have good faith here. However, you continually blank messages whenever I've tried.
Next step.. you will be reported to an administrator. I've kept a log of all of the policies you have violated and the diffs of the edits, so I suggest you give it a rest please. Or try me... whichever you want. - Deathrocker 06:21, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
Considering I've never been blocked or had a hassle with a single other user on Wikipedia until you, I find this quite rich. You, on the other hand, have a wonderful history of tangles with others, including repeated blocks and administrative sanctions. I made a nice collage of quotes from your own archive about what other users think of your "edits" on music topics. By the way: essential people who worked with Brian Epstien on managing and propelling the Beatles career are certainly part of their history and folklore, i.e. Mal Evans, George Martin, Derek Taylor, etc. It is the essense of the story of how a band ends up making it that you somehow just don't seem to appreciate or fathom. One thing is for sure: you only appear to have a surface knowledge of MC, and you've chosen to discount the most credible internet-based sources of MC knowledge. I'll keep on adding the information you arbitrarily, and with malice, choose to remove. A Sniper
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Although I'm glad that you've come around on the Suite 19 part. I think you are missing what Wikipedia is... it isn't suppose to detract or praise any individual... it is just supposed to be a NPOV.
So saying stuff like "he was still considered an influential and important musical personality in the Hollywood hard rock/heavy metal scene of the late 70s and early 80s"... needs backing up with a reference so it would pass WP:V. A tag like this "[citation needed]" needs to be added until one can be found. If you can vertify the information then there is no problem with it staying... otherwise it has to be removed.
And this sentence "playing an integral part in the successive fortunes of the acts he was associated with". Is just pure POV.. he wasn't in any of those bands when they actually earned their fortunes so its just heresay, if he stayed in the bands they may have flopped.... nobody has any posible way of knowing, and so such a sentence doesn't belong in an encyclopedia.
Also with the links, only official websites are supposed to be linked, so I left the Leon official one and his official myspace, the others fall under spam as per WP:External links. - Deathrocker 03:14, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
I am certainly not the only person who has written data at the Greg Leon page (and you should also see the Leon talk page), but I shall give your words some thought, for what it is worth. If I edit it again, it will be with what you've written above in mind...though I can't guarantee I'll agree with you fully...Also, not every page at Wikipedia uses the exact same citation format. Many include references for general data without specifying which reference a particular quote came from, especially if information is paraphrased. At the same time, please respect that I am interested in MC and the information that has been added by me to their page is not POV but is detail found at Chronological Crue and many other MC sites and bios...so please don't rush to continue our unfortunate tit-for-tat on their page. Remember that I conceded that Leon was never a member of MC and ceased that particular edit... A Sniper
