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Contents 1 Comments 1.1 Comment 1.2 Change 1.3 Near Eastern 1.4 Translations

[edit] Comments

[edit] Comment

Is "Ayran" a brand name? If so, that should be stated in the article. If not, then it shouldn't be capitalized. —Michael Z. 2005-05-12 04:38 Z

not a brand name -- ZZyXx 21:28, 2005 May 12 (UTC)

Could you maybe explain the difference between Ayran and similar drinks, such as laban, koumiss, kefir and the like? --Iustinus 30 June 2005 06:49 (UTC)

i can't tell the differences for sure because i have drunk only ayran, but from what i've heard kumis is usually made of horse's milk. it is being left to fermentate without adding anything to the milk. the ready drink is slightly alcoholic. while ayran is made of alredy fermentated milk (usually bulgarian yogurt-it is pasteurized and then it fermentates because of the adition of the special bacterias it contents-this is usually made by adding a small amuont of ready yogurt to the warm milk) mixed with water. it is not alcoholic at all. something more - in bulgaria and turkey it is known to be the best drink to cure hangover -- Uf4ica 22 October 2005 16:59 (UTC)

Is ayran also available with mint in Turkey? I seem to remember having drunk something of the sort. Palmiro | Talk 23:17, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

i have no idea, i have never been in Turkey. Maybe someone who is from Turkey will tell us. It would be interesting for me too to find out --Uf4ica

No ayran is just yogurt with water & salt. If you put mint in it (preferably also garlic and cucumber) it then becomes cacik :)

Nah, cacik is thicker, not fluid like ayran, if my memory doesn't deceive me. I have drunk ayran with dried and crushed mint in the 'TRNC' by accident and it was called 'ayran.' I suggest we agree on removing the citations needed. :)--Paffka 20:51, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Cacik is thicker but should still be fluid. Of course, the amount of water you put in it varies with your taste. I've never drunk ayran with mint, but it is common to drink cacik with dried mint leaves. Maybe there are local variations though, like in Cyprus. Filanca 10:05, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Change

I've changed

(Bulgarian: мътеница, literally dreggy or roily liquid)

to

(Bulgarian: мътеница, literally dreggy or oily liquid)

as "roily" isn't a word I'm aware of, neither is "dreggy" for that matter, but it conjures up images of dredging so it might be appropriate. - FrancisTyers 14:35, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Near Eastern

What makes Ayran Turkish? It is drank throughout the near east... If its origin is written to be Turkish in a good source, fine, if not then the yogurt and water drink, no matter the name, is not Turkish. The same drink is sold throughout California as Tahn, the Armenian name. --RaffiKojian 13:02, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

yes the ayran is not turkish for sure - there is ayran in India too and they call it the same way - the name and the drink prolly comes from India and is very old or should I call it ancient.

The Wikipedia articles say that they are different, Tahn redirects to Doogh. Please see Doogh and Lassi. If what is in Armenia is Tahn, then we should delete Armenian references here. deniz 18:47, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

In Armenian, Tahn is commonly used to refer to what is called Ayran here, while Doogh is simply Tahn with gas. So Tahn works for both. They do not have Lassi in Armenia. I think Tahn is much better redirected to Ayran, and will make that change now. --RaffiKojian 18:59, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah thats true, Tahn is what is Aryan here, well the article. Artaxiad 19:00, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

What makes it Turkish is that it's made from yoghurt which is undisputedly Turkish. There's an inheretence here. If you dispute it's Turkish origin, then you need to supply non-biased sources. Not the other way around (it'sWP rules). Delete ALL other ethnic references untill then. --Oguz1 21:17, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Oguz, it is popular in other countries, as well. Supposedly it became an important part of their cuisine, so we should not delete them. It is not only about history. Also, yogurt being indisputably Turkish makes it very likely that Ayran has Turkish origins, but it does not prove it. --deniz 05:47, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Uhhhh....Coca-cola is an important part of just about every nation's "cuisine", so are Cigarettes, Ketchup, and a million other simple little recipes. I don't see the Armenian translation of Mustard on the Mustard page, do you? How ridiculous! --Oguz1 16:55, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

I think it's the difference between eating/drinking habits and cuisine (I guess it's considering the food/drink of your own), I don't know exactly where to draw the line between them (esp. in our globalized world), I guess biases will affect that a lot. Anyway, how about this version of the web page? (this was anonymous)

Is this a English Encyclopedia or is it a Dictionary of all languages? Looks like a dictionary to me with all bunch of different translations. I have never seen this on an Encyclopedia before - in any language. Has anyone seen this before anywhere? --Oguz1 22:29, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Turkish people do not own this, its popular among these people so there languages stay, Coca cola is no ones its not ethnically like "Ayran" or goes back Coca cola is new and others do not use it like this it is completely irrelevant. Artaxiad 00:04, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

This is not a dictionary. Just becasue it's popular somewhere else, we do not need the translation. Coke is ethnic "American" - even WP says so (The Coca-Cola drink has a high degree of identification with the United States itself, being considered by some an "American Brand" or to a small extent as an item representing America.) Turkish people do own Ayran. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Oguz1 (talk • contribs) 14:50, 19 March 2007 (UTC).

OK now, let's get this straight - there is NO documentation that Turks invented this drink, AND Armenians have their own word for this drink - tahn. So what are you trying to say? It so happens that because there are few Armenians in the world (hmmm, I wonder why?), Wikipedia has this drink under Ayran, with Tahn redirecting here. It is just as reasonable to have had it under Tahn, and have Ayran redirect there. So if you would please stop trying to monopolize this drink as if it is only yours, it would be nice. Your apparent severe dislike of the Armenian script makes me wonder how you feel about your neighbors... --RaffiKojian 14:12, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Translations

How are these pronounced: Թան, Αϊράνι, аjрa, айрян . Would be nice to know. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.81.205.51 (talk) 22:55, 19 March 2007 (UTC).