Talk:Ballowall Barrow

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		This article is part of the Penwith Wikiproject, an attempt to improve and expand Wikipedia coverage of the district of Penwith in Cornwall, United Kingdom and related topics. Contributions and new members welcome, you can edit the attached page, do a task from our to-do list, or visit the project page, and contribute to discussion.
		See drop down box for suggested article edit guidelines: Suggested article edit guidelines: Articles are written using a standard set of headings (see suggestions for article structure here. This is to maintain consistency between Cornwall articles and improve the quality of entries through a constant style of writing. These headings are, however, plastic and in state of flux and although we welcome suggestions or improvements, we would appreciate discussionbefore any major changes to the layout yourself. Be bold - if you know something about Penwith then put it in! We value your contributions and don't be afraid is your spelling isn't great as there are plenty of spelling and grammar experts on clean-up duty! At the the Penwith Wikiproject we subscribe to the policies laid down by Wikipedia - particularly civility and consensus building. We are aware that the wording on Cornish geography entries can sometimes be a contentious topic. You don't have to agree with everything but there is no excuse for rudeness and these things are best solved through consensus building and compromise. These are geography pages, and are not platforms for political discussion. if you want to talk about Cornish politics there are other pages who would value your expertise and contributions (Constitutional status of Cornwall, Cornish self-government movement). Most of all have fun editing - thats the reason we all do this right?!

Does this subject have enough (potential) information to justify an article? Would it not be better as a section within either the St Just in Penwith or Penwith articles? The categories could also be transferred.LessHeard vanU 16:10, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

I created the page because this particular Barrow is an English Heritage property. I believe that this alone merits a unique page, as it is an important archaelogical site. I personally intend to expand upon it at a later date. Excavations have taken place, so there is some potential for expansion, if this research can be located. MortimerCat 18:37, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay. I realise that many articles start as a stub, it is just that I wasn't aware of the potential for this. If there is more to come then fine. Are you creating this as part of an English Heritage thing, or from an archaelogical angle, or is it a one-off personal interest project?I only ask as there in a Penwith Wikiproject, and Penwith is full of quoits, standing stones and other items of interest (including Chysauster Iron Age village), which you may find useful in your areas of interest. Since this article is your baby I won't slap the template on this page, but you can if you think it appropriate. An example of the template can be found on the St Just talk page. Anyhow, I hope you enjoy developing this piece.LessHeard vanU 19:42, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

This is a personal project. Basically, I was looking for the information, but it wasn't there. I have an interest in English Heritage properties which is why I felt I was qualified to do this task.

Feel free to slap the template on. As a newbie editor, I was not quite sure what you were talking about :-) I do not have any problems with others taking over my articles, I would prefer it if they did. Although, I am full of enthusiasm now for my little project I cannot guarantee I will ever complete it. --MortimerCat 10:10, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I've added the template that LessHeard vanU was talking about. Its basically just a way of grouping pages which fall within a Wikiproject so that people who stumble across one of the articles in the project know that there is a project that they can contribute too (in this case the Penwith Wikiproject). The point of the project is basically as a focus of effort to improve a given area of wikipedia. If there was an English Heritage wikiproject then that would be equally as valid to stick here (and a page can be in more than one project).

Its great that you have the skills to expand the entry - would you consider writing a short leader section for the Penwith mainpage? I was thinking just a short paragraph that would summarise all of the English heritage sites in the district. Not a massive ammount of detail, but enough to whet people's interest and let them know where to go if they want to read more in wiki. take care Mammal4 10:25, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

The members of the Penwith WikiProject are no more qualified than you to write articles relating to it - for instance I live in the neighbouring District now, and I only moved to Penwith/Cornwall 15 years ago. If there is anything to you feel you can contribute to any of the pages be bold and do it. As Mammal4 said, if there is anything you can add to the Penwith page regarding English Heritage sites then it would be gratefully received. Cheers.LessHeard vanU 19:18, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Controversy over the site

Restored the text as below - statement is about something political concerning this site, but is not written in a pov or inflammatory way - mentioning a political fact concerning this site is not against wikipedia rules so long as neutrally written.

In 1999 there was some controversy regarding this site and others under the care of the English Heritage organisation. The Cornish Stannary Parliament wrote to English Heritage asking them to remove all signs bearing their name from Cornish sites by July 1999 as they regard the ancient sites as Cornish heritage, not English. Over eleven months eighteen signs were removed by members of the Cornish Stannary and a letter was sent to English Heritage saying "The signs have been confiscated and held as evidence of English cultural aggression in Cornwall. Such racially motivated signs are deeply offensive and cause distress to many Cornish people". (see external BBC link).

• BBC news - Historic signs case trio bound over 195.92.168.164 13:25, 8 February 2007 (UTC)