Talk:Battle of Amiens

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Contents 1 Suggested Reading 2 Passed GA 3 John Monash 4 Entities

[edit] Suggested Reading

These sections aren't "bad" as they don't have a negative affect on anything and provide direction to books that provide much more detail than on offer in Wiki articles. Dwp13 17:51, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Passed GA

Well written article. It may need some more inline citations though. -- Underneath-it-All 17:11, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

• I've added and ref'd a few things, but most importantly I just ordered this book from Amazon, which should provide tons of very nice references. Staxringold _talk^contribs 00:54, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

What does this mean? "The British Third army with no armored support had almost no effect on the line while the Fourth with less than a thousand tanks broke deep into German territory, for example" Oct. 10 2006 Brocky44

• It is an example for the immediately prior sentence, "Armored support helped the Allies tear a hole through trench lines, weakening once impregnable trench positions." In two similar positions the one with tanks was massively more successful. Staxringold _talk^contribs 00:44, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for replying. I understand the benefit of having tanks. What I should have said is why is the Third Army mentioned. Only the Fourth Army was mentioned in the article. Unless your talking about the British III Corps which was the 18th and 58th. And why say less than a thousand tanks when it was 534 or 532 like already stated in the article? That is, if that sentence was still about Amiens.If the example given was for the remainder of the war then the Third Army had just as much effect on the line as the Fourth. They both broke deep into German held territory.On August 21 the British Third army had nearly 200 tanks with them on their advance toward Bapaume. The Americans had tanks with them although they didn’t get very far. But that’s another story. Brocky44 11 oct. 2006

I think there may be a few mistakes here. Some small others maybe more important. None to do with grammar. It’s a fair article if it is meant to be brief and if that is the case then it should probably left as is. There is a lot more info that could be included like the British plan for deception and secrecy, at least I find it very interesting. There was a lot more to it than orders to keep your mouth shut. Nothing is said of why or how the deception of the Canadians was made or that because they were considered an elite formation and used as Storm Troop the Germans were always tipped off of an impending attack when they were found in the lines. Nothing was said of the days of battle following August 8. Are they not just as relevant? Nothing is said about the end of the battle. “The third phase of the attack was to have been performed by infantry-carrying Mark V* tanks however the infantry were able to carry out this final step unaided.” I think that information is false and the line should be removed or it should be rewrittin more closely relating to what really happened to the 30 Mark V tanks and the infantry inside. More could be said of the armoured cars and their finding blueprints to the Hindenburg line that later came in really handy and of the adventure and heroics of one whippet tank crew. Maybe I’m going to far but there is at least a couple of things that should be elaborated on. And of that whole LATER FIGHTING part I am totally confused. Why is this part relavent to the battle of Amiens? It says the advance would continue? Is it trying to say the battle of Amiens was advancing by August 27? Brocky44 12 October 2006

[edit] John Monash

John Monash was knighted KCB on August 12 and not GCMG. Please refer Monash: The outsider who won the War by Perry 2004. Monash's own diary entry from the day "Am decorated with Star and Order of KCB." King's diary "I gave General Monash & General O'Keeff [sic] the KCB & knighted them." etc. GCMG awarded 1919 honours list in part for Amiens.Roonz123 05:47, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Entities

Why are Australia and Canada listed as separate combatant forces from Britain? They were colonial forces fighting under the Britain, even if it's just referring to Canada, they weren't recognize until AFTER the war. Sans Nom Reeves 18:28, 4 March 2007 (UTC)