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I suggest moving the article to Dovmont. That's how he is known in every primary source mentioning his name. --Ghirla -трёп- 07:16, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

sources holds translation of his Lithuanian name. So i do disapprove movement to other place. M.K. 08:07, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Jogaila's case: clearly Lithuanian, made career "abroad". Which name to use? Whichever you stick with, please use only one name in the article itself (and not like while in Lithuania - Daumantas, while in Pskov - Dovmont). Renata 23:57, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Illustrations

Free illustrations are available here. --Ghirla -трёп- 07:40, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Inaccuarcies and timeline

According to Lietuviškoji enciklopedija:

  1. he married in 1266, not in 1270.
  2. he first devastated Gerdenis' land and only then (on the way back) beat his 700 men army with 180 men on June 18, 1266 on banks of Dauguva.
  3. in winter of 1266-1267 he organized the second raid to Gerdenis lands.
  4. in 1267 Pskov and Novgorod organized a raid to northern Estonia. On Feb. 18, 1268 he beat Livonian Order.
  5. in 1269 Livonian Order in revenge organized raid to Pskov for 10 days. Grand Master wounded.
  6. in 1270 Yaroslav tried to get rid of Daumantas and push Aigustas as kniaz of Pskov.
  7. in 1271 Livonian Order attacked again, this time with ships. Daumantas beat them up with 60 (?!) men.
  8. in 1272 a larger army from Livonia came, but was beaten on June 8, 1272.
  9. peace
  10. Father-in-law affairs in 1282
  11. nothing for 17 years
  12. Livonian attack and death in 1299

Disagree with somethig? The first part of timeline in the Wikipedia article seems fuzzy. Renata 00:40, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

You are free to change if you are sure that your source is correct. I, for my own part, don't think it is more authoritative than Efron. --Ghirla -трёп- 09:15, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I am not sure, that's why I am posting here and not directly in the article. Nevertheless, the Lietuviskoji enciklopedija has like 5 pages on him, quite detailed. Some other dukes have stuff mixed in from Bychowiec Chronicle, but this one quite clearly separates the matters. In essense nothing seems contradicting with what you wrote, except for timeline: what happened when and after what. Renata 13:59, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
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