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[edit] Paragraph on drug addiction and poverty

This section has recently been deleted by someone, without comment. The section was written by the original author of the article (Djdaedalus). When I added to the article, I left that part alone because I thought it was accepted fact (certainly, I spoke to someone who had attended one of Graham's concerts in the 60s and they believed his performance was marred by his use of drugs at the time). Is there any rationale for deleting the section? Bluewave 08:25, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Davey Graham's drug addiction is well documented - See Colin Harper's book "Irish folk, Trad and Blues: A Secret History" (2005). The original text should be re-instated. It's not controversial.Ogg 19:35, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

The section on addiction has been deleted (anonymously and silently) and reinstated a couple of times. Given the lack of comment, it is difficult to know if this is vandalism, disagreement with the facts, or objection to the way it is written. I have tried to rewrite the section stating facts and their sources. Hopefully, this may be less controversial! Bluewave 10:38, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Davy has completed a mini tour recently, with Aberdeen being the final gig. Unfortuneately his playing [in Aberdeen] wasn't up to his legendary status, so much so that many people walked out, giving rise to questions as to whether he has returned to his drug taking habits. Most of the audience were sympathetic in an attempt to encourage Davy back to greatness. Alastair Gill, Aberdeen


[edit] Anji

Comment by Ralph Katzenell. My brother, Sydney Katzenell (now deceased)told me that in fact he (Syd) originated Angie whilst living in a flat at 26 St Charles Square, in the West End of London. The flat was occupied by a whole group of kids who were musicians, who hung out at, among other places, "The Gyre and Gimble" in John Adams Street, just across from the side stairs up to Charing X Railway Station. Syd had a sort of "job" looking after the coffee shop, and always made sure that young musicians could get free coffee and a place to play there. Angie, he told me, was based on "Hit the Road, Jack" which was a hit at the time, and "Big Noise at Winnetka". Davey Graham heard my brother playing it, and polished it and recorded it.

I have expanded the section on Anji and referenced Sydney Katzenell Bluewave 10:38, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Is this verifiable - it sounds like it offends the rule against 'verifiability' and 'original research' - what source can verify this comment? Dr V 10:05, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I've trawled the internet and can find no references to any controversy over the authorship of Angi. I propose that this section is removed. What's more, maybe it would be better if Angi got its own page? oddsenex

The fact that musicians, including Graham, hung out at the Gyre and Gimble is widely accepted but I can't quote a verifiable source. The fact that Anji includes themes from other songs (particularly the Work Song) is obvious from the music itself, and I'm sure I can find references (will check books): that ability to blend different musical ideas together is part of the genius of Davey Graham. The remainder is the testimony of Ralph Katzenell above. I thought it worth a mention but I won't try and revert a (tasteful) edit if others disagree! Bluewave 09:32, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Born in Leicester?

This has been added today. Is it verifiable? I have checked the birth indexes for November/December 1940 and the only Graham born in Leicester was Michael A. Graham. Bluewave 17:47, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nationality - category

Someone has recently changed the cat from British guitarists to English guitarists. Given that he is half-Scots, British seems a better category, so I have changed it back. Other views welcome... Bluewave 19:47, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but I don’t have another view: I share yours…—Ian Spackman 23:23, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Davey or Davy?

Both spellings abound, sometimes in the same web page. In the article we have things like a link to "Davey Graham's website" which is www.davygraham.com. Graham himself is not much help: the Terrascope interview cited in the article includes "Q: I've often wondered, should 'Davey' be spelled with an 'e' or without an 'e'? A: I used to be called Davie because Angie spelled her name with an 'i'. I didn't know 'Angiography' was the study of blood vessels, did you? Actually, I'd rather be called 'Dave'. I'm not too concerned about the 'e', or the 'y' either." Can anyone offer a convincing rationale for Davy or Davey? Bluewave 13:12, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

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