Talk:Dean Karnazes

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[edit] Controversy

This article seems more like an attack on Dean Karnazes than an encyclopedia article. How can anything to do with ultramarathons be considering "not athletically significant"?

He's also not generally considered controversial, although some people do resent his "marketing style" and believe he is commercializing ultrarunning.

Keep running.

Jgw 23:06, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Karnazes is controversial, as the revert history of this article demonstrates. It would be good to hash out the differences between the two points of view here and come up with some truly neutral language. Sanguinity 20:34, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

• • Given the number of times I've reverted Cockroach we could consider that controversial too.  :) Put the changes you would like to see here, if we reach consensus, they'll stick in the main article. Wikibofh_(talk) 03:35, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Accomplishments

There's no point in including "run 146 miles across Death Valley in the middle of summer to the top of Mt. Whitney." That's little more than a description of the Badwater Ultra (which he is already listed as having won outright in 2004), and there are enough Badwater participants who have continued to the summit that it's not a distinctive accomplishment. Sanguinity 20:34, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More bio + Forrest Gump

The bio is missing! How he began, etc. Check out this for instance: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/15.01/ultraman.html

Also, in the movie Forrest Gump, the protagonist started running all of a sudden.. does anybody know if this is based on Karnazes? --cslarsen 07:26, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Good point, I have his book and will add one. --Sadi Carnot 02:51, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

The bio is wildly POV, and better fits an inspirational magazine article than an encyclopedia. He ran as a child; he quit running in high school after a dispute with his coach; fifteen years later he started running again to deal with the death of his sister; he describes the decision to start running again as akin to a religious conversion. Perhaps a few supporting details for each item. I don't see justification for including much more than that. Sanguinity 07:53, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Having a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dean_Karnazes&oldid=103857772 with lines like "...bar near his home in San Francisco being hit on by some attractive woman, who was not his wife. The company he was working for had just bought him a new Lexus." Is it really acceptable to being copying articles out of Wired verbatim? Whilst the information might be helpful towards the article, verbatim, POV text I would assume, not desired.