Talk:Demographics of Brazil
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[edit] Health
"...Brazil's most problematic disease is AIDS."
I live in Brazil, and this is certainly not true. According to the Brazilian Health Ministry, circulatory diseases are the main cause of death in Rio de Janeiro, followed by cancer and accidents and violence.
http://www.ibge.gov.br/home/presidencia/noticias/29092003estatisticasecxxhtml.shtm
It should be confirmed, but I'm quite positive that this reflects the situation in the whole country.
- Also, tuberculosis and hansen´s disease (leprosy) have a much higher incidence in Brazil than AIDS.
[edit] Old Cleanup Archive
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- Taken from the old Cleanup entry:
- Demographics of Brazil - Demographic breakdown is shown twice, the languages section is somewhat messy. - Straczynski
[edit] Race
Shouldn't this article cover stuff from Race#Race_in_Brazil? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 23:40, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
- On the famous Brazilians pictures, someone has a racial agenda on portraying their country's racial composition. Where's Pele? He's a great Brazilian. Football/Soccer player. Oh, because he's black? Come on, add his picture. I mean most white Brazilians and black Brazilians have the same ancestry, but have different skin colors. To paste his photo (available in his article) won't hurt the country's image or the pictures project. 63.3.14.1 13:52, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Just curious
What makes guys like cafu and rinaldiho considered black in brazil but guys like rinaldo considered multiracial?
- Race definition is much more difficult than this article seems to imply. It is not true that "White Brazilians are all people who descend from White immigrants." (which would be the opposite of the "one drop" policy from the United States). Most of the people considered black have some european ascendancy, and, by definition, everyone of the pardos also do (pardos are the mixed type). I've said this on the Brazil article, and repeat it here. Those girls are not representative of the Brazilian population, not even the white population. To give an idea, Ronaldo himself does not consider him to be multiracial, but white, and that is what his birth certificate states. The section "Race in Brazil or the "Race" article seems to be a lot more accurate on these issues.
[edit] Truth or myth? The "Lost Americans" of Brazil
Frequently told in Brazil history and human geography was a tale (was it a myth)? Definitely aren't lies, it was even quoted by US senator Storm Thurmond himself in a 1964 Civil Rights referendum.(on the dangers of "big government" made Americans long ago left the US like we're a dictatorship!) The prospect of open lands and political asylum for displaced post-civil war US citizens indeed fled the Southern US to Brazil. You should read the articles on Americana, Sao Paulo and Campinas to learn more on these cities' early settlement in the 1860's. I object to the deleted entry under "rvv lies" and let me repeat what that entry stated. 63.3.14.1 20:05, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
<<After the U.S. Civil war, over 15,000 Americans fleeing the war-torn Confederacy came to Brazil to continue their plantation economy (and slavery was abolished in 1888). Their master-planned communities of the state of São Paulo, and to a smaller extent, the rubber producing cities of Manaus and Belem, are testaments to a small migration of Anglo-Americans to assist in development of Brazil. [citation needed]>>
[edit] Nothing on the Cherokee in Brazil
The Cherokee are native Americans from North America, but their long exposure and contact with western culture (Anglo-American) changed the tribe to an agricultural society modeled on the white European neighbors (the US). In the late 19th century, due to pressure by American policy with Native Americans, there was a small migration of Cherokees and Choctaws into Brazil, most of them settled in the São Paulo area. I never knew what became of their descendants, might had blended in and lost their heritage over time in South America or were treated simply as "NorteAmericanos". I've heard at least 40,000 Brazilians may qualify to join the Cherokee Nation in Tahlequah, Oklahoma, but the tribal board may look at it carefully to examine the "lost tribe" of other Cherokees said to lived in Cuba, Mexico and Venezuela. 63.3.14.1 13:57, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] "Multiracial" Brazilians
This sections seem like original research.
First of most sights I have seen and books I have read, refer to the "Multiracial" (in this context) Brazilians as Mulatto. These two terms are not synonymous, and should not be used in that sense.
Also, the section states that Brazil has adopted a U.S. version of the One Drop Rule. Now if I am mistaken, I thought it was the reverse of the U.S. one drop rule (meaning a little "white" doesn't make you black) and that social status was also an important factor in race labeling. Someone please comment so this section can be fixed. Shakam 00:55, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
- Since no one has said anything, I preceded to make changes per WP:NOR. Shakam 21:44, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
Mulatto does not exist in Brazilian census. I do not know why you keep talking about it. I AM FROM BRAZIL and nobody here uses the term mulatto to classify someone's race.
Mulatto in Brazil is used to describe black female samba dancers.
The term used in Brazil is Pardo, which does not mean mulatto (mixed White and Black), Pardo means brown.
Brazil racial classification is based only in SKIN COLOR, not in Race. Mulatto is a Race, not a skin color.
[edit] Stop deleting directory of ethnic groups in Brazil
Someone like an ANON or an admin insists on constant deletion and reediting of the list of Brazil's ethnic groups/communities. Please stop it or you'll get blocked. I like the original edits restored, because there are several hundreds and thousands of Brazilian descendants from European countries. The problem is someone (possibly not a Brazilian) don't like to face the facts on Brazil is a mixed white (Caucasian)-black (African)-Asian (like Japanese or Chinese or Indians)-Amerindian (indigenous) country. Brazil is an example of harmonious racial admixture for the last 400 years, but the country does have a large socioeconomic class divide and improvement needs to get done. 63.3.14.1 20:11, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Who will be blocked is YOU. Your post is pathetic, including ethnic groups that does not even exist in Brazil. Norwegians in Brazil? Please, don't make me lagh.
- Look...I'm using an ANON IP, so it's unlikely I made or restored the edits. Whoever included every race is beyond me, but 20 other ethnic groups he/she added are too small or recently came to Brazil without an official record. Did you check out the Brazilian census reports or other reliable sources? If there are more races and nations in Brazil, let's find any population figures from major cities. I bet it's more diverse than anyone can think of. + 63.3.14.129 00:57, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
