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Dungeon Master from way back also used the you-are-what-you-do class system. You'd chuck bits of dead creature around merely to level up your ranger skills, and hence your attributes --Paul 11:20, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

1 Roguelike
2 and Stuff
3 Hyperborea
4 Reception

[edit] Roguelike

Surely DS ought to be classified as a Roguelike?

It's not 2d, so no...Amren 04:05, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Well, technically speaking, Dungeon Siege uses the common gaming technique of a 2d-interaction surface. So the player character can only interact with the game in two dimensions...

Correct. By calling Dungeon Siege a Roguelike, we would be expanding the definition of "roguelike" too broadly, and ultimately would end up including nearly all RPG's. All RPG's draw their lineage from Rogue, but are not themselves roguelikes. (ft)

[edit] and Stuff

I changed the order or the "External links" section, but apparently Mateusc objected to it. I had removed the "Official websites" sub-heading, removed the "and Stuff" wording from the "Reviews and stuff" subsection and moved the MobyGames link up to under the official websites. I don't really care if the MobyGames link is bunched up with the official websites, but it doesn't belong under "reviews." MobyGames has much more information than just reviews and, often, it doesn't have reviews at all, just other information on games, such as publishing date, screenshots, credits, etc.

But I really object to the "and stuff" wording. It is not encyclopedic. Furthermore, I restrained myself from deleting them, but it is against Wikipedia policy to link to reviews, which are inherently POV. Incidently, fan sites are also against Wikipedia policy, which we also have a section for in this article.

So I propose to delete the whole "Reviews and stuff" and "Fan sites" subsections, remove the "Official websites" sub-section and just leave the three really relative links. If you object or would like to discuss, please do so here. If no one objects, I'll carry out this action in the next few days. — Frecklefoot | Talk 22:04, August 24, 2005 (UTC)

As you see, MobyGames is really amount of stuff, like covers and dates. I don't see a problem with "and stuff" sublink. --Mateusc 02:13, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

The wording "and stuff" is unencyclopedic. That's the first problem. The second is that we're not supposed to post links to the reviews—they're not encyclopedic either. If I had my way, we'd get rid of the fan site links too, but—Wikipedia policy or no—a lot of video game articles have them. I stand by my proposal to remove the fan site links and the "and stuff" subsection. — Frecklefoot | Talk 14:52, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

Note that Mobygames is not a fan/review site, but instead is intended to more of a game database (vaguely in the manner of IMDB). Dxco 00:38, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hyperborea

In the old version referenced "Lands of Hyperborea" as having been created by the Siegenetwork community. LOH was actually created by Jim Farris, it was not a community project. I corrected this, added more details, and added an entry for Mageworld. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kilarin (talk • contribs) .

ive been tring to kill valdis for three days,not a single hit lessens his life count though ive been trowing everything on him....

I would guess you're speaking about Dungeon Siege II. Valdis can't be killed by conventional means, you have to lure him into those "beam weapons" that are lined up in the room you encounter him in. Activate them when he's in front of them. 193.69.146.66 16:10, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

how is that happens? do i have to finish all the primary and secondary quest to kill him..im at level 41 now and cant be a true veteran unless he's killed...please help (Spider acivarra 08:29, 27 February 2007 (UTC))