User talk:Enaidmawr
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[edit] External links
Hi I notice that you have provided a few external links to pages. Could you bear in mind that Wiki is not a directory and that external links are intended to add something to the article in question. Maybe take a look at WP:EL & WP:SPAM to clarify things. Enjoy editing & regards --Nigel (Talk) 06:52, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
- SORRY - should have looked more carefully - you "moved" the myspace ones which made me think you had placed them - fingers before brain! Kind of PS but feel free to remove such if you come accross them. apologies & regards --Nigel (Talk) 06:55, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
- Excellent to hear from you (born & bred in the West Country so an honourary celt!). Enjoy editing, feel free to throw out links that are not relevant to the page - content is always better than links, contact me or WP:WPSPAM if you want a 2nd opinion. All the best --Nigel (Talk) 20:54, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Lloegr
Hiya there, a welcome to Wikipedia. Ah, you've seen the "lost lands" stuff, have you? There's a bit of history here. It keeps on popping up in a variety of articles, and the only sources ever proposed are random websites (often mirrors of other Wikipedia articles) or the Bernard Cornwell novels, with a lot of "it could have happened" or "it makes sense" commentary. See also: Talk:Wales#Lloegr_.3D_.27Lost_lands.27.3F, Talk:Celtic_nations#Lloegr, and far too many other pages. I suspect Lloegr is simply one of those terms where, unless someone makes an unexpected find, we shall just never be sure. I confess that I remove it wherever I see it, because I spent an afternoon in the library looking the claimed references up, only to find they didn't say "lost lands" at all, and to see people blithely putting things back in with no evidence or citing the same thing again is a bit irksome.
Thanks for the suggestion of Trioedd Ynys Prydain: this is not the first time that someone has mentioned it to me. And one day, someone will return it to the library and I shall have a look at it.
No problem on the Saint Cybi references, btw: I am forever forgetting to put that tag in myself, so this time I knew what to do :)
Telsa (talk) 09:49, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
- They returned the shiny new third edition at the weekend (it has been out on loan for about five months, grr), and I got to it at last! Wow, what an amazing book (and I think I can see where some of your Buwch Frech material is going to come from now, too :)). I wish I could justify getting a copy. Thanks again for the pointer. Telsa (talk) 15:08, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Henry Lewis
Morning, thanks for your note. Not trying to be unhelpful but there is a school of thought that lists of names which have no links shouldn't be included as there is no evidence of notability. Where the link is clearly to a different individual and there is nothing to back up the entry then should it even be there?
Anyway, I can see that you have done a lot of work on the page and I'm not attempting to sabotage it. The most constructive way forward is to create a Wikipedia entry for the indivudals that you have listed so that notability can be confirmed. If you're happy for me to do it I can create some stubs for the individuals you have listed when I have time.
Nigel45 10:16, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the response. I suppose the issue re red links is that if someone who is not expert in a particular field is looking at lists where there is no back up entry he/she can't determine whether or not the entry is valid and rely upon that information. If you look at the general list of Welsh people you will regularly see rogue entries, some of which are obvious vandalism, some of which are less easy to detect. If there is a list of, for example, Estonian kings, a link to the source demonstrating accuracy would cover the point even if there wasn't an article for each entry on the list. So, I suppose it's not so much notability that's the issue but accuracy of the entry, and I understand your point re cartoon characters.
Regards Nigel45 12:09, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Mabinogion
Sorry, I reverted your edits because you bolded all the titles in every section. Also, using the more common name for works is preferable here, not the native title, is preferable (though you're right, they are 100% valid). Finally, you left the link in the English title and just moved it over, instead of piping a link from the Welsh name. But anyway I worked them both in now, so please make sure I didn't miss anything. Cheers, Great Soul.--Cúchullain t/c 00:44, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
- Hey, I understand completely. I shouldn't have just reverted you without more of an explanation. Anyway, the original titles were desperately needed, so thanks for doing it. --Cúchullain t/c 22:14, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Welsh Poetry list
Bore da,
Where I can I'll add a few stubs or detail to some of the red links.
Other items I was thinking of were:
- a page for Welsh language poets 1600 - present day
- to embellish the Anglo-Welsh poetry page to inlcude what English language poets I know.
Do you a have any particular preference to the spelling of Dafydd ap Edmwnd? I'd always known it spelt as Edmund (being an English educated trog), but I can put in a redirect to Edmwnd if you prefer.
If you want it for the cy.wikipedia, I've got a copy of Dafydd ap Gwilym's "The Rattle Bag" in Welsh which I could upload into you talk space - I can't read the Welsh well enough to follow the links and create a new page.
Hwyl
Janus 00:21, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] A mad idea
I've had a mad idea for the welsh poets page.
If you look at the page on the Eyptian eighteenth dynasty there's a graphic showing the timeline of the pharoahs.
I sort of thought that under each section we could do something similar for the major poets in each era (e.g. Dafydd ap Gwilym, Rhys Goch Eryri, Iolo Goch, Lewys Glyn Cothi, Siôn Cent, Dafydd ab Edmwnd) and include one or two major historical events, e.g. the deaths of the Llewellyn's, death of Glyndŵr, invasion/annexatoin by Edward I & Henry VIII) which are refelected in a number of the poet's work.
It may help to put some of the poets and their work in a historical context - as long as we don't overdo it and try to include everyone.
Any thoughts?
Janus 18:44, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Geraint the Blue Bard
I'd added Geraint the Blue Bard, and then read the headline text which says that the following is a list of poets work is extant. Geraint's isn't. Do we want to keep him in, or do we want to add another section of poets with no surviving work but are suitabley notable - this would allow us to list the poets like Cian, Blwchfardd Culfardd and Afan Ferddig that you already mention. Or we could move the link to Geraint up with the others.
Also, as Geofrrey of Monmouth also wrote in Welsh should he be included in our list as well (provided that we can add a small section to his existing page on his welsh writings).
Any thoughts?
Janus 19:55, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] My views on Carnedd Ll?welyn
Su'mae. Please read my comments more carefully in future before assuming I'm for or against something. I am not "generally against" the article title in question being Carnedd Llywelyn. I am for the article title representing the most widely used form in English—whichever this may be. I am against basing the choice on etymology or the preferred form in Welsh or the original form when the mountain was first named in print. These criteria are irrelevant to this question. garik 19:05, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
