Talk:Andrew Gower

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This article was nominated for deletion on December 31, 2006. The result of the discussion was keep.

This article was nominated for deletion on March 18, 2007. The result of the discussion was keep.

Contents 1 Clean-Up 2 Info source 3 Middle Name? 4 Protection 5 Game Question 6 Big tidy up - new references found, and original research removed

[edit] Clean-Up

I have marked everything from "Creations and Programs" down as needing clean-up due to the following reasons

• Past/Present Tense
• Grammar
• Repetition
• Word Choice
• Prioritization and Organization. What I mean by this is that the section starts off mentioning RuneScape, jumps to minor programs of Andrew's, leads into Devious MUD, and then, TA-DA!, we're back at RuneScape, mentioning the same information mentioned before. I suggest that the section "Creations and Programs" is followed subsections, e.g.

• Early Programs
• Devious MUD
• RuneScape --Twipie 05:28, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Info source

You mention that information was gotten from his personal website? Where is this website exactly?

Xharock 15:42, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

His website was available through archive.org recently, but it was blocked for a reason I'll need to check out. I wish the site was still there, as thats where I got almost all this information. (from when I originally re-created this article, 95% of it still being there) ~ rih29 19:16, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Middle Name?

whats his middle name?

It starts with a C. I'm not sure what it actually is though. ~ Rih29 06:09, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

I seem to recall it's Christopher. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.21.96.85 (talk) 01:08, 1 March 2007 (UTC).

Can you tell us how you know this? ~ rih29 21:57, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Protection

Does anyone else think that perhaps this page ought to either be a) protected or b) deleted entirely? The latter is another discussion, but it seems the only edits to this page at all in the last month or two have been vandalism or reversions of such.—chris.lawson (talk) 03:09, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

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I think it should be protected, because this should not have to change very much. It is about a person, not a current event. This is not just a normal everyday person, it is the creator of one of the largest mmorpg's out there. --cattrain 01:10, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

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Hi, I recreated this page with enough information to qualify. I included lots of information about Andrew and DeviousMUD! If this page is vandalized, I would like it to be protected. ~ Rih29 06:12, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Looking at WP:PPOL and WP:SPP, I really don't think this article meets the criteria for semi-protection, much less full protection. In fact, much of the notable information in here is already included under RuneScape and Jagex. Pyrospirit ^{Talk Contribs} 18:14, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Much of this information took research and none, if not, very little of it was found using those two articles. ~ rih29 21:28, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Game Question

Whats that monster game that andrew gower made before Runescape its one where you create your own monster and you battle to make it better...any ideas anyone?

I believe it may be Cyber-Wars? 06:08, ~ Rih29 06:09, 28 December 2006

I believe he's actually reffering to Battle Thingz. You created a monster using different parts of different animals/beasts to create your own monster you would fight, it was great fun :). I wish it was still around to play. 86.135.154.141 00:51, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Big tidy up - new references found, and original research removed

I have just spent a considerable amount of time with google and the wayback machine attempting to find references for this article. I've been through it a sentance at a time!, and have succesfully managed to find sources for most the key facts. The remaining stuff which was completely unatributable (and hence original research) I have removed, but I think the page is looking fairly good now if a little short. Before readding further facts please make sure they are properly referenced, and non-trivial. Thanks 85.211.227.3 22:47, 25 March 2007 (UTC)