Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andrew Gower (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 05:14, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Andrew Gower

Andrew Gower (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

I don't think this is notable, or that you could get reliable sources for it. Previous AfD was over a year ago, so we're doing it again instead of G4ing. Amarkov ^blah_edits 18:52, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

• Keep The article is in need of significant improvement, but if the statement that he was one of the founders of the company that produced Runescape (one of the largest MMORPGs in existance) is true then he's quite notable. Tarinth 19:24, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

• Comment & Questions regarding potential sources:

• Is eduhistory.com credible? See article including Gower at: http://www.eduhistory.com/RuneScape-runescape-cheats.html --Kevin Murray 21:13, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

• I'd like to point out (sorry if it's been mentioned/noticed already), the article on the link above resembles an almost exact copy of past versions of the RuneScape article - we can't use ourselves as a source :\ Same goes for the thestocktools.com link below, it resembles a past copy of RuneScape Agentscott00^(talk) 04:47, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

• I'm seeing hints around that he is the creator, but can this be re-referencing of WP creating a circular rumor. --Kevin Murray 21:13, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
• This press release, while not compelling evidence may serve as an exhibit which lends credibility press release reprint --Kevin Murray 21:26, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
• Product/investment review mentioning Gower: stocktools.com appears independent. --Kevin Murray 21:30, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
• Jagex - Profile, Alarmclock.com, October 27, 2005 is this credible? --Kevin Murray 22:10, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
• Time Online (London?) http://www.timesonline.co.uk/richlist/person/0,,39448,00.html discussing Andrew Gower's wealth. --Kevin Murray 22:22, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
• Regarding the rumor thing, if you simply LOOK on the page that I put as a source, you can read everything on that page. I don't see why this person can't be notable. He made one of the biggest MMORPG's to date, with thousands and thousands of players. He's an interesting person, and I felt that it would be nice to inform people about him, since not much is commonly known. ~ rih29 00:31, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

• Keep Per apparently credible sources (above) which seem independent and non-trivial. Upon some evidence of consensus, I can rewrite this article and add the references --Kevin Murray 22:22, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Hmm. Looks like I was mistaken. I could just close this now, but I won't, in case someone else has something to say. -Amarkov ^blah_edits 01:25, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep He is notable. He created RuneScape, one of the biggest MMORPGs of of recent years - • The Giant Puffin • 13:29, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep, he's definitely notable. oTHErONE _(Contribs) 14:25, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. Although his notability has been questioned in the past, the fact that he is indeed the creator of one of the largest websites on the Internet (Alexa WT ranking: 819) definitely gives him notability. Besides being a popular website, it's one of the leading MMORPG's of our day, and with millions of people playing the game, I think that makes him and his creation unique. Nishkid64 18:47, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - per Nishkid - The RSJ ^{Sign my book}|^CCD 19:00, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Needs a large rewrite in terms of the text. Appears noteable and that there are enough sources to fix this. Please remove the trivia section though as it is lame. . Davidpdx 01:49, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
• Strong Keep Just fix the large masses of RED LINKS. → p00rleno (lvl 80) ←ROCKS^C_RS 13:20, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - It definitely needs more sources, and a possible rewrite. He is notable though, and deserves an article. Agentscott00^(talk) 04:40, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.