Talk:Brick Lane
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[edit] "Bengali" or "Bangladeshi"
Jelloyeti changed "Bengali" to "Bangladeshi", remarking "Bengali refers to language, Bangladeshi to the people". I believe that is not correct, but I am not expert. As I understand it, "Bengali" refers both to the language and to the people of all of Bengal, including West Bengal, where Calcutta is located, ancestral home to a very large portion of the Brick Lane community. "Bangladeshi", at least in UK usage, would specifically refer to people from the modern country of Bangladesh.
Going further out on a limb, I believe that "Bangladesh" means "Bangla (Bengali) land".
Can someone cite anything authoritative on this? -- Jmabel | Talk 06:44, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC)
"Bengali" refers to both the language and the peoples and culture of the Bengal region, which as you correctly say, includes both Bangladesh and areas of India and Pakistan. "Bangladeshi", whilst I can't comment on the etymology (though your breakdown seems very plausible), is now exclusively employed to describe people and things relating to Bangladesh. As far as I am aware the majority of Brick Lane's population is of Bangladeshi extraction, though some no doubt came from other parts of Bengal. I would not use the two words interchangebly, least of all because of the long-standing animosity of the peoples from the different areas round there. --82.38.226.131 09:26, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
surely bengali refers to any connection to bengal(i.e. bengladesh or indian west bengal),whereas bengladeshi just to of bengladesh
[edit] Shadwell Massive
I corrected "Shawell massive" to "Shadwell Massive", but is that actually a geographic location, or just a gang name? In any event, "Shadwell" is a place, and not far away, perhaps that is what was intended. If no one comments in the next few days, I'll change this to just Shadwell. -- Jmabel | Talk June 30, 2005 00:25 (UTC)
Pretty certain it's a gang name. The various gangs of the area, exclusively of one race or another, are a problem and might be worth mention in contrast with the positive fusion of different cultures in other aspects, for example cuisine. --82.38.226.131 08:39, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
[edit] So who is looking into the crystal ball?
From the article: "This is also expected to result in the poorer lower class communities living in the East End who will choose to sell the properties at very high prices to buy more spacious homes further out from the city centre. Consequently. the traditional East End community of Brick Lane will evolve into a unique combination of the middle classes—mostly financial city workers—and those from the vibrant art community."
- Whose expectation is being expressed?
- Most "lower class communities living in the East End" do not consist of landowners; hence, this is putting an awfully favourable spin on gentrification.
Jmabel | Talk 04:57, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Is one of the property developers editing this page?
The statement about the crossrail link improving the life of current residents by allowing them to move to "more spacious" accommodation is unverifiable and based on no evidence.
NBeddoe 22:32, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
