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[edit] Гласај

Во тек е гласање во врска со статијата за Република Македонија. Можеш да гласаш овде [1]. Поздрав --Dipazi 00:15, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kyustendil

  1. The Macedonian name is largely irrelevant — no part of the population of Kyustendil describes itself as Macedonian, and the town has no greater historical connection to the Republic of Macedonia than any other town in western Bulgaria as far as I know.
  2. I have good knowledge of the writing and transliteration systems of Macedonian, and "Ќустендил" is not your own (i.e. distinct) name, but simply the way the name is transcribed in the Macedonian Cyrillic orthography.
  3. Kyustendil is not even part of the wider Macedonian region, not that it would be a reason to add "Macedonian names" to Bulgarian towns in the region. Just like you don't see the Bulgarian variant in the Skopje (Скопие) or Bitola (Битоля) articles. But it would be fully OK if you added "Ќустендил" to the Names of European cities in different languages article.

These are my reasons. As for the "rv vandalism" explanation, I was referring to the edit made by User:88.80.110.20 which replaced "[[Bulgarian language|Bulgarian]]" with "[[Srebs language|Serbian]]". You've got me wrong, but it's my fault because I didn't say specifically what is the actual vandalism while I reverted you too with a single edit.

You seem to know quite a lot about transliteration systems. There has been a debate at the Macedonian Wikipedians' notice board over what transliteration to use as a standard (currently the names of Macedonia-related articles are a total mess). You should probably join the discussion and make some suggestions! TodorBozhinov 15:36, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Don't worry about the tone, it was absolutely OK — given the situation, you were right to ask for an explanation. And don't get me wrong, I wouldn't actually mind having the name in Macedonian Cyrillic on the page, but I simply don't think it's that important to have it there. Indeed, Kyustendil is quite close to Gyueshevo-Deve Bair, but mean proximity is generally not enough. Anyway, we seem to have settled it :) By the way, don't hesitate to ask if you need any assistance, help, or you don't understand a particular action of mine. I'm always willing to help or explain! TodorBozhinov 20:51, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thunder and Lightning

Thanks for the edits you did on the Thunder and Lightning page - keep up the good work! Bretonbanquet 18:00, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

The edits you made are fine - I never noticed the Wharton thing! It was a bit confusing at the time if I recall, since his picture wasn't on the sleeve. Wharton was quite upset about that at the time. Bretonbanquet 00:15, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] To Evlekis

Hello, I am very interested to talk to you. Do you have MSN Messenger?

[edit] Hrvatska i Ugarska

Pazi, Hrvatska je pre 800 godina ušla u politički savez sa Ugarskom, tako što su Hrvati Ugarskog kralja izabrali za ktalja Hrvatske. Od tada, pa sve do 1918, Hrvatska je postojala kao politička teritorija i Ugarska je upravo preko te Hrvatske imala izlaz na more. Dakle, pogrešno je reći da je to sada Hrvatska a da pre nije bila. PANONIAN (talk) 13:16, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

A što se tiče Dalmatinske obale, Dalmacija nije pripadala Ugarskom već Austrijskom delu Monarhije, tako da je jedini izlaz Ugarske na more bio taj preko Hrvatske. PANONIAN (talk) 13:18, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WTF

sorry i don't understand cyrilicBigz 00:10, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Yugoslavia

Hi, when adding "Yugoslavia" to birth place of a person, please be speciffic. There are 5 Yugoslavias:

  1. Kingdom of Yugoslavia (1918 - 1941)
  2. Democratic Federal Yugoslavia (1943 - 1946)
  3. Federal People's Republic of Yugoslavia (1946 - 1963)
  4. Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (1963 - 1992)
  5. Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (1992 - 2003)

Just to evade confusion... Thanks! --Dijxtra 14:56, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Good point! So, from 1918 till 1929 is Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes, and from 1929 to 1941 it is Kingdom of Yugoslavia. --Dijxtra 16:35, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Osogovo

It's really a minor thing, but it's spelt with a capital П in Macedonian and a small п in Bulgarian, so we have to reflect that. I think it's OK as it is now, but I wouldn't mind changing it ;) TodorBozhinov 11:51, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Kyustendil was a bit of a different case IMO: here we have a mountain that's on both sides of the border, so we should have both names.
I can imagine how funny Bulgarian possibly sounds to Macedonians, because Macedonian sounds really funny to me :) Very much like Shop. TodorBozhinov 16:49, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Country of Birth

You misunderstood me a bit....I was talking about the modern era of Yugoslavia, aka Yugo after 1945, when the borders were drawn up to today's present borders....yeah, I agree, it helps to know the time period which they were born in, but to me it is very misleading.....especially since Yugoslavia doesn't exist anymore, just like the Soviet Union doesn't exist anymore, yet go to pages of Russians who were born in the Soviet Union, ie Irina Slutskaya, Ilia Kulik, Maria Butyrskaya, Sergei Voronov, all their countries of birth is listed only as Russian, I see no Soviet Union there. And even Wales, which is part of the United Kingdom/Great Britain today has people listed with their country of birth as Wales....people like Catherine Zeta Jones, Rhys Ifans, Michael Sheen. If it absolutely needs to be added, on the Croatian, Bosnian and Herzegovinian, Slovenian, Serbian, etc pages should not list something like Sarajevo, Yugoslavia, it should be something like Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina (then Yugoslavia). Because Bosnia still existed then, but under Yugoslavia, and it exists now. I think that sounds best. --128.195.70.96 02:17, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] MP

Thanks for your contribution to Marco Polo discussion.

Take Care Evergreen Montenegro1 03:46, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Where?

Even now, the user will occasionally visit certain cafés in London which entertain people from the Balkans; and to these same venues, musical acts from the former Yugoslav republics will perform every so often.

:) - Francis Tyers · 17:21, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Cool, thanks. I think I may have inadvertently gone to the Greek place in Bayswater before. But I didn't know they did ex-YU nights. - Francis Tyers · 17:39, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Krashovani

No problem. And, btw: thanks for being such a careful and neutral editor. Wikipedia needs more editors such as yourself. Dahn 13:21, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Mulţumesc! I'm far from perfect I accept; I have let myself go a few times over silly issues!! Evlekis 13:26, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] KYTV

Hi again. Just thought you might be interested to see this: Articles for Deletion - Big Fight Special Your comments would be appreciated... Thanks! JamminBen 04:20, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Yasou Evlekis

I am not an admin, any simple user can welcome. However, even if I were, I am not sure I could follow this content dispute, since I can't read the source cited. I am more than willing to help, but I don't know how. I could introduce you to several admins if you wish (not that it would make any difference), but I am sure they'd have the same problem. I suggest you find some English source so that everybody can follow, and from then on, you'll have full support. You may also wish to translate parts of the included source in the articles talk page, so as to back up your claim. Please let me know. NikoSilver 12:21, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Ummm, not sure I understand what you thought. I assume you thought that the article was appearing in some Slavic language in my screen, but that's not the case. I was talking about the articles' source down in the bottom. See this external link which appears in Seka Aleksić#References. That's the one I can't understand! As for admins, believe me, I wouldn't involve anybody, as this is a content dispute (not a behavior issue -at least yet). Normal editors (like me) can help you as well, provided that they understand that your edit is WP:CITEd by a reliable source. If you insist, try a Serbian very WP:NPOV admin that I happen to know. His name is Duja. NikoSilver 16:35, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Seka Aleksic

Haha tacno brate, DJ Bungi nema pojma... Odakle si? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nexm0d (talkcontribs) 18:15, 3 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Regarding the RFCU

I'm sorry that I dragged you in to that ugly issue; guess I had better kept my mouth shut. I noticed that scope of your edits, your interests, and your apparent location in London to an extent correlate with Celtmist's and Ragusan's (which were obviously not vandals, but they had an odd overlap because they allegedly used the same computer). I was just curious whether you might have to do something with that, but, since I hold a fairly high opinion of your edits, it would have been wiser to keep my (speculative, anyway) observations for myself; I certainly don't want you blocked.

Since none of checkuser admins bothered to respond to the issue or to Pax's and my requests for clarification, and Ragusan/Celtmist didn't protest the block, the case apparently rests for good. Once again, I apologize for any inconvenience that might arise. (You can e-mail me if something ugly happens).

Btw, I recommend that you "enable e-mail" in your preferences, instead of leaving the e-mail address publicly — spam scanners etc. Duja 08:20, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your userpage

Hi, about the Albanian translation of your name, it's my experience that most names ending in "-is" in Greek end in "-i" in Albanian, so I think it would sound more natural to change it to Evlëki, Evlëqi, Evleki or Evleqi. -i is a common name ending in Albanian because it is the definite article. Also, if you're interested, in Japanese, it would be エフレキス efurekisu (the crossed out u's [u] are written but not fully pronounced). Unfortunately, Japanese have no "v" or "l" making them render our names correctly difficult ;-) Regards, //Dirak 22:03, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cyrillic

evlekis you are wrong, I understand it since you never have lived in Kosovo, but say what you have heard from Serbian nationalists. In front of me I have a "isvod" issued in Kosovo in 1982, and I can not see any cyrrillic in it. The headline "Nga libri amzë i të lindurve(albanian)- Iz maticne knjige rodenih (serbian)".

More facts: ICG in 1998 : Beginning in 1991, Kosovars faced massive linguistic discrimination. Here is how Kosovar journalist Behlull Beqaj describes this process:

"The law on the official use of the language and names (27 July 1991) practically cancels the use of language, although the Albanians in Kosovo account for 90 percent of the population. Resolutions concerning names of streets, boulevards, schools and other social and cultural institutions have the same intent. Based upon these resolutions, the former names were changed and the new names from the history, culture and mythology of the Serbs were introduced. All the names of the streets, boulevards, cultural institutions, health institutions, schools and other institutions are officially written in the Serb language and the Cyrillic alphabet."

Wikipedia: Whilst Serbo-Croat was widely accepted (before the Yugoslav Wars), the Cyrillic alphabet was used predominantly in central Serbia and in Montenegro (until the late 1990s).

Therefore Serbian Cyrillic should not be used on Albanian names.

I am not saying that Serbian was not official in Kosovo, but I am saying that the cyrillic letters were not used officially in Kosovo, maybe because Albanians could not read cyrillic. Besides Merry Christmas, even though you celebrate Christmas in January. --Noah30 17:36, 24 December 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Re:Croats of Slovenia

Well, there's no short answer to that. As far as I know, a good deal of these Croats fled further inland during the Ottoman invasions and kept their identity (which wasn't very difficult, since there was no organized Slovenia, thus there would have been little encouragement to assimilate). Now, as to the idea about ethnic locals, it's possible, but unlikely as far as I can tell. While I've read of studies that say about a third of Slovenes may be originally Croats, I have never really felt like there's been a great deal of support for their "Croatian-ness" as a whole. I believe Starcević referred to them as Alpine Croats at some point, but other than writings I'm not aware of any great desire to realistically incorporate today's Slovenia into Croatia (compared to other regions).

Another problem is that both Yugoslavia's brought changes in population. For example, native Croats may have fled Slovenia (after World War II?), while Croats from other republics may have migrated there for work. All this is rather speculative though, as I don't know very much on the subject. Good luck with your search :P --Thewanderer 16:26, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article of Ivana Knezevic

Please, do not remove the "Ivana_missmontenegro.JPG" picture form Ivana Knezevic article, the image "Ivana.JPG" is not available. Stop adding Yugoslavia after "Bar, Montenegro". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.50.0.176 (talk) 01:13, 2 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] User:Mig11

Hi Evlekis, I read your comments on Mig11's talk page. I am thinking on filing a request for comment on this user's behaviour. It is certainly disruptive, most of her edits are just about removing spellings or diacritics. REgards, Asteriontalk 13:54, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Yakoruda

Oh well, I was actually planning to write the article myself somewhen :) Thanks for starting it — you can count on me on expansion, template addition, categories, etc.

By the way, I noticed you had moved Iskar to Iskăr and I moved it back — indeed, using diacritics is the only way to correctly transliterate Bulgarian (because of the "ъ" and its lack in standard Latin), but the official system we use here uses "a" for both "а" and "ъ". I know it can be confusing and misleading, but that's what we've got, and we have to stick to it :) Personally, I like the diacritic system (ž, š, č, ǎ) most, but I only use it when it's important to have the correct pronunciation marked in English. TodorBozhinov 19:57, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

I added some data to Gradina, you can always use the Bulgarian Wikipedia when you need statistical info about any place in the country, because it has automatically generated stubs on every village :) TodorBozhinov 11:38, 19 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] WP:MoS

See [2], the nationality has to be in there per Wiki guidelines, which makes sense since it would be very confusing for uninformed readers. He definitely considered himself Turkish Armenian, on a side note :) Cheers! Baristarim 17:18, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thank You

Yeah, I noticed I was getting close to breaking that rule, and plus I have to go to sleep soon for work tomorrow. Still, you'd think I'd get a faster response from admins when it's such an obvious case of sockpuppetry from User:Hahahihihoho. Thanks again! KingIvan 12:05, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Muslims in Greece

Γεια σου Ευλεκή, what are you doing, your edit comment made no sense? All I did was change the transliterations, you had transliterated μειονότη"τα" as meionóti"ka" and you used the Bulgarian "ă" with "y" while that is not proper (you either use "ă" and "j" or "a" and "y", see [3]). The reason I am insisting on using lower case letters in some words is that is how they are officially written by the Greek government, read relevant the external links. You also deleted an unrelated external link I added. I hope this is a misunderstanding. User:LieutenantBoom

Hi again, I know transliterations can be a mess. More so in Greek because you cannot de-transliterate a text if you don't know the language. Furthermore, Greek has no official transliteration system, for example you'll see (in an official context) the letter χ randomly transliterated as "h" or "ch" (sometimes even "kh"). Bulgarian has an official system which has the defect of not distinguishing between а and ъ (both are transliterated as "a", see the link above). User:LieutenantBoom
Ја не знам бугарски језик али разумем мало а пробам да учим српски јер подносим традиционално српско-грчко другарство. User:LieutenantBoom
Ποια είναι η άποψή σου για την ανεξαρτησία του Μαυροβουνίου και του Κοσόβου; Διορθώνεις παρακαλώ και τα λάθη μου στα σερβικά, κάνω πολλά! User:LieutenantBoom
I was asking for your opinion on independence for Montenegro (accomplished) and Kosovo (application pending) together with a request that you point out any errors I make in Serbian. Tell me as well, what do you consider yourself, an ethnic Macedonian, Serb, Englishman, Briton or something else? User:LieutenantBoom
Also, when you are addressing people with Greek names ending in -s, you drop the -s (e.g. Evlekis > Evleki [like in my first message in this section] or Ilias > Ilia), there are a few exceptions to this (which change it to -e or don't change it at all) but they are not many. Consider it like the gospodin > gospodine of Serbian. User:LieutenantBoom

[edit] Please use the + tab when starting a new conversation on talk pages. Thanks.

Please use this tab to start new talk page conversations.

As you may know, when you add new sections to talk pages like you did to create User talk:LieutenantBoom#Editors that don't provide an edit summary tend to look like vandals, it would help if you used the + tab rather than simply editing the last conversation. When I saw you posted in User talk:LieutenantBoom#Looks like a seperate conversation after here, I thought you were replying to me.

Technically, you provided no section header at all. I added "Looks like a seperate conversation after here" for you. Before I did that, my post simply ran into yours. That made both hard to read. If in the future you use the + tab, everyone will thank you. Will (Talk - contribs) 23:59, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lake Ladoga

Hi, the transliteration "Ladozhskoye Ozero" is correct because the Russian "e" is translitarated as "ye" after vowels, and "e" after consonants (according to the policy adopted in Wikipedia; in fact, other conventions exist as well). For further details, you may have a look at WP:RUS. Thanks, Goudzovski 10:47, 26 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Tidying up

Hello Evlekis, thanks for the effort of tidying up at the Milan Lukic article. Unfortunately the article itself is substantially wrong in its present form - Lukic hasn't been sentenced, he's only been indicted. I was going to make a fairly large-scale change which I'd given advance warning of on the Discussion page and planned to implement on 20 January, except I've been too busy. I hope to return to it over the weekend. perhaps if you've got any comments on the new content you'd like to add them, so that I can incorporate any changes you think would be useful. --Opbeith 13:20, 26 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Milan Lukic

Evlekis, I've made the changes to the Milan Lukic article, plus information extracted from the ICTY, Amnesty International and articles by Ed Vulliamy and Nerma Jelacic. I was pretty tired when I did it, so I'm sure there's plenty that can be improved if you feel like it. I see that you're a diacritic mechanic, I've left lots of scope for intervention there.

Sorry, I tried to put this on your User page by mistake, not awake this morning either. So if it looks as if someone's been messing around there that's why. --Opbeith 09:05, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Big disagreement about the User page - it's not a "load of junk", it's a lot more interesting than most! And you had the energy to do it, which is more than me.
My knowledge of Lukic is (fortunately) all indirect. I got involved with the article when HanzoHattori quoted the "sentenced" text somewhere else (can't remember where, may have been Visegrad Massacre, I've had a bad month, can't even remember where I put my cup of tea). I knew he'd done a bunk to Latin America and only recently been brought back to the Hague, so hadn't been tried, let alone sentenced. I tried to put together some more extensive source-based info but hopefully someone with more direct knowledge of Lukic's activities will turn up and provide a better informed reworking of the text.
I'm aware of the importance of diacritics in Roman character B/C/S but I haven't got any instinctive feel for them and in any case can't handle the typing - I just cut and paste a character or word, which is a pain. Any remediation work you can manage I'd be grateful. --Opbeith 14:38, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Go ahead and do what you like, that's what Wikipedia is about. The material is taken from the ICTY, Amnesty, Guardian etc. This is about Milan Lukic and his actions. I'm sure you can fill in all the reasons why a family man and pillar of the community behaved as he did. --Opbeith 08:40, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Personal attacks

Please avoid personal attacks of this nature Fred Bauder 01:05, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Your comments on Talk:Racak

As a matter of fact I have been to northern Kosovo and talked to Serbs. Have you? I have also talked to many ex-UCK, although I must admit I have never slapped any of them in the face. Have you? My knowledge comes mostly from first hand experience, which I gain by living in Kosova - I then use WP:RELIABLE SOURCES to back up my changes to this encyclopedia. You can whine all you want about media bias, but as far as wikipedia and its rules are concerned, unless you can back up your claims with supporting evidence, we don't have to listen to you. And no, not all sources are equal. As for the so-called 'massacre' at Klecka, I'm happy to discuss it if you can bring any evidence, but if you'll read my posts in the Racak article, I think you'll see that your ridiculous theories have already been pretty conclusively debunked. However if you've got something new, please let us all know. Anything we can do to make the truth known is worthwhile, just be aware that unsupported nonsense will not be regarded with equal weight as verifiable proof. Davu.leon 20:30, 17 February 2007 (UTC)


Не мора да значи, има и доста западњака који тако мисле и говоре, па говоре и "Косова" Србима у инат :) Nikola 10:41, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

You never answered my question. Have you ever been to Kosova? As for your special secret knowledge which is sure to be 'checkmate', bring it on. If you've got something that can change my mind I want to hear it. Oh, and Nikola, I'm afraid I don't speak Serbian. Pa govorye i Kosova Serbima u inat means nothing to me. Perhaps you'd be kind enough to offer a translation? Davu.leon 12:13, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Nice try but no cigar. I'm Irish. And I'm not a peacekeeper, I'm a filmmaker. Davu.leon 19:33, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

And by the way, what are your 3 reasons? Davu.leon 19:37, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cyrrillic

You are wrong about Cyrillic in Kosovo. Cyrillic is not used in Kosovo and was not used until 1995, when Milosevic made Cyrillic a part of his nationalistic agenda. Give me an email address and I will try to send to you parts of my "isvod" issued before 1990 and you will understand what I am saying. Besides I googled her and no Serbian website mentioned her anywhere. --Noah30 08:47, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Communists supressed Cyrillic in entire Yugoslavia, and izvods issued even in Belgrade would be in Latin too. Prior to that however, Cyrillis was used in Kosovo. By the way, in some places at one point of time Cyrillic was used to write Albanian. Nikola 10:40, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please use english

I noticed that you have posted comments on an article or user discussion page in a language other than English. When on the English-language Wikipedia, please always use English, no matter to whom you are addressing your comments. This is because comments should be comprehensible to the community at large. If the use of another language is unavoidable, please provide a translation of the comments. For more details, see Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines. —Psychonaut 13:51, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

I am happy with your solution so far. Have a nice week and I am glad we found a solution --Noah30 20:48, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bulgarians

Hi! If you're talking about the Croats infobox, I see only links to countries there. The {{Croats}} template has links like Croats of Slovenia and Croats of Slovakia, but we also have {{Bulgarians}} with similar links (however not red ones — when I write a new relevant article, I would add it to the template).

Perhaps you mean writing a short summary section about the Bulgarians abroad in the Bulgarians article? That would be quite useful, although "Population" currently serves that function too, at least to some extent. Anyway, I wouldn't object to anything you do with the article, just be bold and don't hesitate to improve the article as much as you can! :) TodorBozhinov 21:02, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and by the way, you can feel totally assured that your nickname is written Евлекис in Bulgarian too :) Also, not sure but perhaps in Polish it would be Ewlekis? TodorBozhinov 21:06, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Yep, it seems like a good idea to have some more info about Bulgarians in each country, if not a separate article about the more prominent Bulgarian communities. The links I was talking about are these in {{Bulgarians}}: Western Outlands, Banat Bulgarians, Bessarbian Bulgarians, Bulgarian Americans and Bulgarians in Hungary; these are all articles of that kind that we have for the time being. TodorBozhinov 08:53, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] From Austria-Hungary to the first Yugoslav Kingdom

So much text to read... :-) I got no idea how to classify place of birth, in book on People's Hero of Yugoslavia they only named existing republics without reference to country to which it belonged at the time. I guess history is written by winners so A-H ended in 1918, Versailles was only technicality since new borders were mostly drawn by then, NDH was never recognized outside Axis bloc etc. --Ivan Bajlo 14:01, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Translation

Hello again. The tanslation was from the following page: [4]. I think the gist of it is: Nephew of the late Berisha confirmed to "Vijesti" that his uncle was supposed to witness against Haradinaj. Kujtim never complained because of the Hague. The young man confirmed to Vijesti that his uncle was a witness in the case of Haradinaj, but he also stated that Berisha never complained that he had any problems because of that. They were hit with "Mercedes 190" driven by Aleksandar Ristovic (26) who is charged by the Police for serious endangering of security in traffic. Ristovic will remain under custody for 30 days as determined by Judge Dujovic from Podgorica Court of Appeals. A source from Police told us that during the investigation, it has been confirmed that at the moment of accident Ristovic was drunk – driving at a very high speed . Ristovic tried to defend himself by saying that he lost control over the vehicle as a result of lights from the other direction that blinded him. However it would be good to have an independent translation, just in the interest of fairness. Davu.leon 16:33, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

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