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Contents 1 Any comments most welcome 1.1 John Swank 1.2 Lleyton Hewitt 1.3 John Frusciante 1.4 John Frusciante 1.5 Re: External link on Frank Zappa article 1.6 Country Naming 1.7 Tennis WikiProject 1.8 Wikipedia:WikiProject Guitarists 1.9 Freak Out! 1.10 Removing notes from my talk page 1.11 Orphaned fair use image (Image:Kristian Pless.jpg) 1.12 Tennis expert 1.13 Entry on administrators' noticeboard about User:Lman1987 1.14 Formatting of tennis players' pages 1.14.1 Wins (4) / Runner-ups (3) 1.14.2 Wins (6) / Runner-ups (5) 1.15 Vandals 1.16 Gibson J-160E

[edit] Any comments most welcome

[edit] John Swank

Editors can remove {{hoax}} tags from articles, though they should add evidence that this is not a hoax. other editors such as yourself can replace the tag, though please avoid edit warring. As the editor also removed the {{Prod}} tag, I've send to article to AfD. Thanks for letting me know, Gwernol 19:00, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lleyton Hewitt

Thanks for catching that. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 10:39, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] John Frusciante

Thanks for the notification of that. I reposted the image because I had assumed all it needed was a the copyright tag that I had forgotten to include. However, I have looked on numerous other pages of Public Domain images and they do not include any more than I have. Cheers. - Mellowship_S —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mellowship_S (talk • contribs) July 23.

You're welcome!--HJ 20:01, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] John Frusciante

Thank you for experimenting with the page John Frusciante on Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. HJ 08:30, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Excuse me? This is ridiculous, I removed an entire paragraph of Original research and fan ramblings, deleting such content is par for the course on biographies of living individuals, do not ACCUSE me of vandalism.--I'll bring the food 07:20, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for having caused this. I just automatically thought that complete revomal of such a big paragraph was a bit destructive (the label 'ramblings' probably did not help me think otherwise - my fault). Thus, I reverted your change, and tried to remedy the paragraph instead. I will remember to assume good faith next time.--HJ 08:07, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
The above exchange, appearing on I'll bring the food, has been STRUCK here as it has been STRUCK on I'll bring the food--HJ 21:42, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: External link on Frank Zappa article

I don't know for sure about Zappateers (I'll ask them), so maybe it's OK to be removed. But what about the streaming services? Did you check the legal status of what gets broadcasted and did you find anything officially/commercially released, which should not be there?--User:Nschlia 13:42, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

I am not sure about which streaming services you are referring to. Could you pls elaborate? --HJ 22:19, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

BTW, I removed the Zappateers site link from the German Wiki as well. Thanks for the hint.--User:Nschlia 20:27, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

I meant the Zappa radio site, I am maintaining that server, so if there was something on it which was previously released or otherwise copyrighted, I would remove that immediately.--User:Nschlia 20:12, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Even though no officially recorded material is streamed, I do not think there should be any link. It is still a site where copyrighted material are distributed (yes I know the files are not at the servers), so legal status is unclear. Also, in my opinion, this is not material that serves a clear purpose for an encyclodedic article on Frank Zappa (i.e., "where to go for unofficial recordings" is not adding much relevant information).--HJ 07:23, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing me out. You've been very kind and helpful. Instead of being angry, I should have read your page - I thought you were one of those people who try to edit anything when they think they're right. But you know what you are talking about. A combined Zappa+Simpons fan can't be wrong :) --User:Nschlia 19:23, 06 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Country Naming

Yes I agree with your policy of country naming not being important for Yugoslavs born in the 1980s. This was pointed out to me once by another established user but I still think that there needs to be some kind of policy. I see your Danish background might give you some neutral perspective. I hope you agree that for now it is best to simply give the town name without reference to which country is was then or now. Ragusan 22 sep 2006

That seems like a good solution, which cannot hurt anybody's feelings.--HJ 22:38, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tennis WikiProject

Would you be interested in this? If so, please add your name here: Wikipedia:WikiProject/List_of_proposed_projects#Tennis. Thanks! —MC Snowy (Talk | contribs) 18:45, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Guitarists

I noticed your guitar player userbox. Would you be interested in joining the WikiProject Guitarists? It is a very active project dedicated to improving all guitar/guitarist related articles. Your contributions would be more than welcome. Cheers and take care! Anger22 12:10, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

I certainly understand about having no time. In the battle between Life and Wiki...Life always wins. I have spoke to Admin Aguerriero about the possibilty of giving the Frank article another Featured Article push. We also discussed the quality of the Frusciante article(it is well done) and how it was at the stage where it could be given a GA push as well. If you can spare the time your knowledge/contributions to these guitarist articles(and any others) would be greatly appreciated. Cheers! Anger22 15:46, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Freak Out!

I'm trying to get the Wikipedia entry on Freak Out! promoted to a featured article. Feel free to help out. (Ibaranoff24 15:34, 22 January 2007 (UTC))

Wowie Zowie! (Ibaranoff24 05:22, 22 February 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Removing notes from my talk page

I have the right to remove notes on my talk page that were either vandalism or simple notes to me that I have already read and served their purpose. Please feel free to delete this note whenever you'd like. Regards. Tennis expert 16:00, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I thought there were rules against that. I don't know about "rights" here. So I guess I'll let your remark rest here. --HJ 19:36, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Removing notes from your own talk page is deprecated, ESPECIALLY IF IT INCLUDES A WARNING. The appearance of warnings needs to be documented in semi-permanent form. Tennis expert is an egregious scofflaw in this regard. El Ingles 00:20, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned fair use image (Image:Kristian Pless.jpg)

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[edit] Tennis expert

I'm sure Tennis expert is a very dedicated contributor to that area. But after experiencing him first hand in a content dispute, I felt he could sometimes cool down a bit. It's nothing personal (I sure hope so). You probably saw it all in his talk page history. —KNcyu38 (talk • contribs) 16:18, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Indeed! Great contributions and knowledge. And I admire your efforts to convince him/her that some good faith in others' edits is a nice thing.--HJ 17:03, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Entry on administrators' noticeboard about User:Lman1987

I thought you might be interested in this. An entry about Lman1987's recent editing history has been posted on the administrators' noticeboard.[1] Tennis expert 16:55, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Unfortunately he/she continues the disruptive behavior under the name User: Tennis Genius. See [2] --HJ 17:54, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Hello there. This user appears to have resumed his vandal edits, this time under User:72.155.113.55. Tennis expert 19:15, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm trying to get several tennis articles semi-protected WP:RPP and could use your support on this. Semi-protection won't prevent registered users from vandalizing the articles, but it will prevent anonymous IP vandalism. I'm thinking that checkuser can then be used to more easily link User:Lman1987 with what are almost assuredly his IP accounts. If you have any ideas I'm not thinking of, please let me know. Best regards! Tennis expert 07:57, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Formatting of tennis players' pages

User:Lman1987, under various names and IP addresses, continues to try and change the formatting of the records sections of various tennis players' pages. The user is trying to make what they believe to be a constructive improvement (and to some extent I see their point on how it would be nice to see players' finals all listed in chronological order), but definately needs a lesson in constructive discussion and enagagement on Wikipedia.

I previously said on User:Tennis expert's talk page that I didn't like this user's ideas on formatting becuase it made it very hard to pick out wins from losses in that format. But it has occured to me that if each entire line of wins had its text in bold and losses were not in bold, that problem might be solved and we'd in fact have what might be quite a good format.

Here's how that would look for Jim Courier's Grand Slam finals:

[edit] Wins (4) / Runner-ups (3)

Year	Championship	Opponent in Final	Result	Score in Final
1991	French Open (1)	Andre Agassi	Win	3-6, 6-4, 2-6, 6-1, 6-4
1991	U.S. Open	Stefan Edberg	Loss	2-6, 4-6, 0-6
1992	Australian Open (1)	Stefan Edberg	Win	6-3, 3-6, 6-4, 6-2
1992	French Open (2)	Petr Korda	Win	7-5, 6-2, 6-1
1993	Australian Open (2)	Stefan Edberg	Win	6-2, 6-1, 2-6, 7-5
1993	French Open	Sergi Bruguera	Loss	4-6, 6-2, 2-6, 6-3, 3-6
1993	Wimbledon	Pete Sampras	Loss	6-7, 6-7, 6-3, 3-6

And here's how it would look for Stefan Edberg's:

[edit] Wins (6) / Runner-ups (5)

Year	Championship	Opponent in Final	Result	Score in Final
1985	Australian Open (1)	Mats Wilander	Win	6-4, 6-3, 6-3
1987	Australian Open (2)	Pat Cash	Win	6-3, 6-4, 3-6, 5-7, 6-3
1988	Wimbledon (1)	Boris Becker	Win	4-6, 7-6, 6-4, 6-2
1989	French Open	Michael Chang	Loss	1-6, 6-3, 6-4, 4-6, 2-6
1989	Wimbledon	Boris Becker	Loss	0-6, 6-7, 4-6
1990	Australian Open	Ivan Lendl	Loss	6-4, 6-7, 2-5 (retired)
1990	Wimbledon (2)	Boris Becker	Win	6-2, 6-2, 3-6, 3-6, 6-4
1991	U.S. Open (1)	Jim Courier	Win	6-2, 6-4, 6-0
1992	Australian Open	Jim Courier	Loss	3-6, 6-3, 4-6, 2-6
1992	U.S. Open (2)	Pete Sampras	Win	3-6, 6-4, 7-6, 6-2
1993	Australian Open	Jim Courier	Loss	2-6, 1-6, 6-2, 5-7

What do you think? Would this in fact be both an improvement and a reasonable accommodation that might stop the current edit war?

Just a thought.

Regards,

Zaxem 04:56, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi Zaxem. Thanks for your message. My opinion: I think this format is very confusing. The point of the GS section is to provide detailed info on opponents and scores. The top priority is wins, so they should definitely have a table of their own. Being runner-up is subsidiary, and could actually be removed in my opinion. If it should be mentioned, it should definitely not be in same table as wins. Boldface does nothing here, except highlighting the player names that did not win. Could be confusing. As to the argument that one can see that a player has played several consecutive finals (and won some and lost some), I think that is not valid here. For that purpose, we have the performance time-line. So, I think the format should not be implemented. As to how the scores are presented in the runner-up subsection, I have no preference. --HJ 15:22, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandals

I noticed you mentioned how you were already at your 3rd revert on a certain tennis player's article, but the 3RR rule doesn't apply to when you're undoing the edit of a banned user. In this case, it's obvious when a certain banned user is editing as a sockpuppet, and thus one should report them. oncamera^(t) 15:35, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gibson J-160E

Hello there! I saw your revision at Frank Zappa and went to the article about the guitar that was linked through the previous version and I thought, "Well, there havn't been a whole heck of alot of players who have played one of those..." I think maybe Steve Howe might have and probably a few jazzbos; in the hard rock milleau/context FZ was probably the only one. It would probably be nice to have at least one article that links to Gibson J-160E by a player other than Dave Malone at the very least. Anyways, I was one of the people who tried to get this article featured a while back and my personal thought is, "Why not include a complete list of the instruments he was known to have played?" Thanks for your ongoing contributions to Wikipedia, have fun editing! Best Regards, Hamster Sandwich 17:46, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi! I have never seen a photo of Zappa with this guitar [3]; hence, my revert. I may be wrong, but could you please provide some more info (I am quite interested in this). In any case, there is the issue whether it is one of his "notable" instruments. Cheers, --HJensen, talk 18:26, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I must admit that I confused the big bodied semi-acoustic Switchmaster that he played with the model in question. If he did indeed play an acoustic, I have never seen a picture, nor have I ever seen one in the (extensive) video collection I have of FZ in performance. If indeed a guitarist so closely identified with electric guitar played an acoustic on occaision it could be counted as notable; in the sense that it was done only rarely. If the intention of notability is to stress a close identification of a particular instrument or model, then there is no doubt that any acoustic instruments would be far from notable in the FZ inventory (excepting possibly the Bösendorfer FZ kept in his studio for recording). Carry on, noble wikipedian, you have opened mine eyes! Hamster Sandwich 19:01, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply, and best wishes to you!! --HJensen, talk 19:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)