Talk:Kobe
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[edit] PICTURES
- The sunset over kobe does not look good at all; it does not have a sunset looking sky and the building are so dark you cannot see them. I do not see the point of having a picture to show how the city looks like, when you can only see the outline of the buildings. What do others think?
- I think the port of kobe picture with the two large ships should be removed. It is obvious that this is not a picture of the port, but a picture of two large ships with 10% of the picture actually showing the port.
- The Nakatottei picture is not a good picture at all, at least in my opinion; it should show more of the city and it was likely taken by an amature photographer.
I think these three should be removed. What do others think? ChristopherMannMcKay 13:18, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
- It bears pointing out that we're all amateurs here. Well, most of us anyway. That said, you can find plenty of Wiki-friendly photographs on Flickr, so if you think the photos need replacing, knock yourself out. Ytny 17:19, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
- I agree that the photo gallery needs to be trimmed. There are too many photos in the gallery, which, given its size and location, dramatically lowers the quality of the article. All but perhaps four or five should be cut. -- Exitmoose 00:19, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
- Almost all the photographs of this page seem to be relatively good in me. I cannot understand why you criticize the photographs of this page abruptly. --C-cro 13:20, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
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- I cut the ones people were complaning about yesterday. All the ones that are left look pretty good to me. -- Exitmoose 01:31, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Culture
I do not have any sources, but I know before the Kobe earthquake, Kobe was the largest shipping port in Japan and it was one of the first major shipping ports to trade with westerners a long time ago, so Kobe saw a lot more westernized things before other parts of Japan. Examples include, the first French style bakeries that are now wide spread throughout Kobe more than any other city in Japan and Japan's first golf course; there are other things too, I just can't remember them all, but I know the port influenced the city a lot. A lot of westerners lived in Kobe because of the port and built multiple buildings downtown in European architecture. Fashion has somewhat influenced the city’s culture, as many popular fashion magazines compare Kobe style with Osaka style or Tokyo style; there is even a magazine named Kobe Girls about Kobe fashion—which is typically more classy than neighboring Osaka or Kyoto. -ChristopherMannMcKay 15:35, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
- I think in as much as what you discribe is the historical development of the city, these things could go under "History". The article already mentions how the opening of the port in 1868 led to the Westernization of the city. Anything that could flesh out that statement would really improve the article. And in as much as what you describe is visible today, it could go in the "culture" section. Some good ideas. I'd definitely try and find some sources before you add anything though. The article already has so many uncited statements. -- Exitmoose 07:20, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
- I suggest to creat the Kobe-fashion article.It was written about it already "神戸系ファッション","神戸コレクション" at wikipedia japanese ver..Since 19th,there are a few area at Kobe or Hanshin that live rich families,and The conservative culture that is flexible in the fashion created there.Kobe-fashion is one of them,I think.In this year(2007),this was held in Shanghai too.And sometimes,The Kingdom of Thailand invested.So I think this event is supported by not only companies but also other countrie.
- Please tell me opinions.
- by 219.9.130.62 : 19:20 3 Mar. 2007 (JST)
[edit] Meaning of "Kobe"
While fact checking the article's claim as to the etymology of "Kobe", I came across a much more commonly accepted meaning, which I've edited the article to reflect. In addition to the source in the article, the following sources also assume this meaning:
http://hometown.infocreate.co.jp/en/kinki/kobe/midoko-e.html http://www.ryuusenkaku.jp/navi/200602.html
If a reasonably academic source can be found to back up the "houses of shrine" etymology, we can put the two side by side, but the only one I was able to find was from a rather dubious travel agency site. -- Exitmoose 07:57, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Assessment
In order to progress past "B" class, the redlinks in this article need to be taken care of (preferably created). It may also be good to list the stations for each line (or the major stations in any case). ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 06:37, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Kitano-cho
I've created the Kitano-cho article to reduce the number of redlinks, but it's still a stub. There's plenty of information in the references to flesh out the article, but I just don't have the time now. If you're looking for something to do, all the information is there, it just needs to be put in article form. -- Exitmoose 08:26, 15 February 2007 (UTC)