Talk:Rules of basketball

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	To-do list for Rules of basketball:	edit  · history  · watch  · refresh
Rewrite timeline as paragraphs (yay!) Summarise and categorise current rules Check for amount of overlap with main article Basketball (There will inevitably be some overlap) Write procedure for rule changes(?) Uniforms and their standardisation (eg numbering must be 4-15 in some comps etc.)? Possibly will need to make decision as to whether to have a "US" page and an "International" page which will clarify the different rule sets? Need to check (& resolve) the overlap between the categories of: Basketball rules and Basketball terminology Anything else, please add to the list.

Contents 1 Creation of page 2 Original rules 2.1 Vandalism 3 Restricted Area Arc

[edit] Creation of page

I've created this page for the purpose of finding a place for the timeline of the evolution of the rule of basketball. Having created this page, it also presents a place to explain the rules in more detail, and provide an account of its history. This is an encyclopedia, so a written account would serve better than a timeline, even if a timeline would prove interesting in another context.

I'll get to it myself if I find time. If anyone could help start the article, or to write the timeline as paragraphs, then that would be great. Thanks. Neonumbers 11:21, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Hey, it looks good. You'll probably want to add in when the three-point shot was first introduced (I believe it was 1978 for the NBA, most high schools had it by the mid-1980s, and college not until 1986). [[Briguy52748 17:37, 10 July 2005 (UTC)]].

There are actually a lot of rule changes that aren't on the list - I didn't write the timeline, I just moved it here from Basketball because I found that article a rather inappropriate place for it. If you get time to expand this page, that'd be great... I will when I get the chance (which, as you can tell because I made the page in March, isn't very often.) Neonumbers 09:07, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Original rules

The original rules are available from (I'm sure there are other places) here. Alphax ^τεχ 12:07, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Yep, I've seen loads of places, but I've resisted a strong temptation to copy it out word for word, because of copyright issues. It would seem logical that something like this isn't subject to copyright, because it's quoted so frequently, but I don't know — I'd be more than happy to see the original rules on this page if that's possible, to say the least. Neonumbers 05:33, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

The original rules cannot be subject to copyright anymore: they date to 1895! WLior 00:11, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Brilliant! (If that's true,) that means they can be put on the page. I was wondering how something like that could be copyrighted... every website I've seen that has those has them exactly the same but also has a copyright notice which is probably for their own content rather than this but I don't know much about copyright. I'll get to it (sticking those rules on the page) some time, or someone else can. Neonumbers 10:49, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

I've been brave and copied the original rules from this page on www.hoophall.com. As above, I believe that they cannot be subject to copyright, as the document dates to 1895 and is readily found on countless websites, but if you have reservations, feel free to delete the material.

If you have a better understanding of copyright laws when it comes to documents like this one, please do me the favour of explaining them here. Neonumbers 06:19, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

Whenever I come back to this page it seems someone has vandalized the original rules. I'm getting tired of fixing them -- can we get just that part protected somehow? It's not like the original rules need to be updated from time to time? WLior 22:42, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Restricted Area Arc

An important rule (or clarification of existing charge/block rule) is the new restricted area arc. I could not find the year it was introduced in the NBA but it seems to be in the NCAA in 2004-2005 as a 2 foot arc. NCAA increased to 3 feet arc for 2005-2006 season and in the NBA its a 4 foot arc.

The NBA rule:

"An offensive foul should never be called if the contact is with a secondary defensive player who has established a defensive position within a designated "restricted area" near the basket for the purpose of drawing an offensive foul. The restricted area for this purpose is the area bounded by an arc with a 4-foot radius measured from the middle of the basket."

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--MarsRover 22:39, 29 April 2006 (UTC)