Talk:Fedayeen

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"the word Fida'ye describes several distinct Muslim groups " this is not precise , because the fidayeen werent always muslims , nor where they always members in islamic movements , for instance , the PFLP , the popular Front For Leberation of Palestine , and Fateh , both dont describe them selves as "islamic" , and both had non-moslim palestinians in among their founders , such as "kamal nasser" of fateh , and Geogre Habash and wade haddad which are the founders of PFLP , are all palestinian christians , and the conflict with israel didnt have a religious dimension with religious movemensts or islamic ones until the creation of Jihad islami and hammmas movements (hamas was created in the end of the 1980's) , and the fidayeen were active in an era where the main stream was socialism and the parties that were active in it where generally on the "left" and "extreme-left" part of the political spectrum of the palestinian movements. in short "most" of the fidayeen didnt have religious reasons to "sacrifice" the selves but their reasons where patriotic , i.e. freeing palestine from the israeili occupation by means of force and attacking israel military in west bank and historical palestine (israel).

please consider changing Muslim to Palestinian or Arab , eaven though i belivge it can describe someone of any nationality , at least thats what it means in arabic.

[edit] Hashhashins

An anonymous user added the following to the hashhashin bullet point:

(Note: this is a widely distributed but patently false etymology, the story of the old man on the mountain is a fabrication supposedly transcribed from Marco Polos journals, no other sources exist for this legend)

I moved it to here, pending comments. Anyone know what this is about? – Quadell ^{(talk) (sleuth)} 12:28, August 21, 2005 (UTC)

The Nizaris (followers of the Aga Khan) think that the whole hashisheen thing is a slur on their glorious ancestors, but this article is not the place to discuss it. AnonMoos 00:48, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] fedaykin from Dune

I would like to add that the Fremen word for Paul Maud'dib's bodyguards "Fedaykin," from Frank Herbert's books are likely to be from the same etymology as the word Fedayeen. This is especially likely considering that many words in the Fremen language seem to derive from Arabic. However, I am not sure if it should go in this particular page. Any thoughts?Edgar Kavanagh 10:43, 4 November 2005 (UTC)Edgar Kavanagh

Then there are the "Feydaukin" from National Lampoon's "Doon": -- "Comedy commandos sworn to protect the person of the Mahdl-T or die laughing. Their traditional strategy involves running in and out of rooms and slamming doors, thus confusing their adversary." AnonMoos 00:48, 6 November 2005 (UTC)