Talk:Flint-Worcester Tornadoes

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Strictly speaking, this should be 'The Flint-Worcester Tornadoes', since these are two widely separated events. --Brian Rock 20:36, May 1, 2004 (UTC)

The Flint-Worchester tornadoes are NOT seperate events. They are probably related. I mean, two severe tornadoes one day apart? Completely related.216.94.9.26 18:08, 16 February 2007 (UTC) Jenna Orian

Contents 1 Average ANNUAL tornado? 2 Baseball team nickname 3 Split 4 Ugh.

[edit] Average ANNUAL tornado?

Wondering if average Mass tornados are supposed to be "average annual", but don't want to edit if this is not the case —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.95.139.107 (talk • contribs) 15:37, June 8, 2004 (UTC)

"Massachusetts has an average of about 5 tornadoes since 1950."

what does this mean? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.36.15.107 (talk • contribs) 20:53, June 7, 2005 (UTC)

I'm modifying the entry based on data found at: http://airmap.unh.edu/background/extremeEvents.html

This shows the average number of tornados in specific New England states per year based on data collected from 1956-1990.

-Isotope23 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Isotope23 (talk • contribs) 13:27, June 8, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Baseball team nickname

Seems like this section doesn't really fit. A much smaller section, or even a note at the top pointing there may be better. Any thoughts? --Falcorian ^(talk) 22:28, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Split

These are two separate tornadoes, and thus should have separate articles. I propose a split to Flint, Michigan Tornado and Worcester, Massachusetts Tornado.

I'd vote against; these were the most famous of a 17-tornado outbreak spawned by the same overall storm system - as they were both produced by same greater storm produced tornadoes from Wisconsin to Massachusetts, I'll see what I can do to clarify this in the article. --Davidals 22:28, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Same here. It was the same system that produced them, and the rule is that the same system gets one main article. CrazyC83 01:04, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

I'd vote in favor; the Flint-Beecher tornado was separated from the Worcester tornado by over a thousand miles and nearly 24 hours. Even if we don't end up splitting the article, there should probably be a greater emphasis on, and more detailed description of, the Flint-Beecher tornado, as it was the most recent single tornado to kill over 100 people, and one of the most violent in Michigan history; all the information I've found on the Worcester tornado indicates it was a minor storm mainly of note due to its location and being part of the same system. If it warrants discussion in the Flint-Beecher article, then why not the other ones that were part of the outbreak? For example, two hours before the Flint-Beecher tornado, another tornado did over $25 million in damage at the GM Proving Grounds in Milford, MI, about thirty miles south of Flint. Rdfox 76 17:29, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Both tornadoes (and any other really important tornadoes with enough information) should have full sections once (if) a chart is compiled. Although it is tough to do from 1953 with a lot of incomplete information... CrazyC83 23:37, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

There is plenty information on both of these tornadoes to form two seperate articles. Both were among the deadliest and most destructive in history. While there is precedent for two or more notable tornadoes to be included in the same article, this is different than other cases, say the Tupelo-Gainesville Tornado Outbreak where there was continuous tornado activity between the tornado...there was a gap of more than 12 hours and almost 1000 miles between the activity for the Flint-Worcester case. These were two seperate outbreaks, regardless as to whether they were formed by the same system. I think a split is in order. -RunningOnBrains 17:03, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

If the split were to happen, the naming of the two articles would have to be something along the lines of Flint-Beecher Tornado Outbreak and Worcester Tornado Outbreak, as both these areas had several other minor (or even major) tornadoes. -RunningOnBrains 17:06, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Problem is there were tornadoes elsewhere as well, including deadly ones in other states...they would be orphaned if the article was split. CrazyC83 14:11, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ugh.

First off, "How did a tornado hit" Mass is not a sub category in my opinion. It's a question you need for a report and you go to it and find out in the first major section. I took it out since people can figure it out, as there are tornadoes in New York and if they can't, possibly combine it with the upper, longer parts? Secondly, trivia only has one thing. Put it with something else possibly so it's not out there in the open. Put it in the main part, put it somewhere else, expand it. Something. I'm tempted to put a "no trivia" tag at the top since they do exist. Also, "1953 Tornado Season in Perspective"? Maybe you can combine it with the rest as it's all of a sentence and doesn't deserve a topic. Just my opinions. Babylon pride 23:34, 27 March 2007 (UTC)