User talk:For7thGen
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[edit] Welcome
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Hello, For7thGen, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:
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Thank you for your nice welcome, Friday. I appreciated it then and I appreciate it now that I've carried out your suggestions. I'm responding in one month, which is fast for me, it sometimes seems. I just took a look at your User page, and thank you for it too. Time to put up an article myself, today if all goes well. For7thGen 16:14, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
- Nope, nobody really takes turns. But, when I see a user who doesn't have a talk page yet, I usually give them a welcome message. Friday (talk) 04:40, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
- Here are four off-the-topic paragraphs which were on the Golden Rule (ethics) talk page, moved here as promised there:
I had a big problem with the (only two) footnotes. I would much prefer to have done them as on my own website, entering [1] and [2] in the text, not superscripted, and linking them to what WP calls id attributes at the start of the footnotes. But WP has decided by consensus to follow the guideline of WP:Footnotes and that is what I have tried to do. "WP:Cite sources" is also a consensus WP style guide, and not inconsistent. In the case of multiple references to the same footnote, as in this article, the autonumbering of the footnotes is pointless since numbering by hand is needed anyhow, in the templates "ref label" and "note label."
So let's change the footnote consensus guideline to include let's say "method 4," the one above involving [1] and [2] in the text, not superscripted, linked to id attributes at the start of the footnotes. This method 4 would be "allowed" only for those few articles where more than half of the footnotes are multiply referred to.
This footnote guideline change does NOT depend upon whether autonumbering works, since numbering by hand is needed anyhow. And I know it may be considered poor judgment on my part, as a novice, to suggest this change. I'm not really a novice in matters involving communication and guidelines, however; plus my judgment is that most of the WP community wants even a novice to suggest changes.)
If I knew that "wiki" should be used where I'm using "WP", I'd write wiki instead. Also wiki is easier to write. But I think WP is easier for the reader; and the big multiplier effect, 100's of potential readers for my one writing, makes me choose the harder WP. For7thGen 16:10, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] American Civil Rights Movement
The easiest way to fix vandalism is to revert the changes yourself. Or, if it's a persistant vandal, you can also leave them a note on their user page and ask them to cut it out. If they're not logged in, this is less useful, as the user page is linked to their IP address which may change. I'll put this article on my watchlist and keep an eye out for vandalism.
Also, there is Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism, a page specifically for reporting vandalism, but it's really only meant for persistant vandals who've already been warned and haven't stopped it. The instructions there will tell you more. But, if there are content issues, particularly if you're not sure whether sections were removed for a reason or whether it was simple vandalism, you can rarely go wrong by leaving a note on the talk page.
Another thing (and this is something that's not usually obvious to folks who're new here) is understanding the role of administrators. Admins are no more (or less) responsible for taking care of vandalism than anyone else. It's everybody's job to do it. (Altho, since we're all volunteers here, I hesitate to say that anything is anyone's "job".) Still, I tend to revert vandalism when I see it, and I highly encourage anyone and everyone to do the same. You can find out who the admins are by looking through WP:LA, but there are several hundred. In many cases, when people think they need help from an administrator, what they really need is help from an experienced editor. Not all experienced editors are admins, and vice versa. Admins do have the ability to protect pages from editing and block users, which is sometimes neccessary when vandalism gets out of hand.
Wow, that's long. Anyway, hope this helps. I'll look through the civil rights page and try to see what's going on with that. Friday 14:40, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] American Civil Rights Movement (1955-1968)
Good work on the November 7 revert. I fixed the recent vandalism and tests, I think. -Walter Siegmund (talk) 03:01, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
Good additions to revert too. Walter Siegmund (talk) 03:27, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Embedded links
Hi Frank, I noticed on the RfC against SEWilco, you expressed confusion regarding how to use embedded links. This is explained on WP:CITE. I've left an explanation here. Cheers, SlimVirgin (talk) 11:06, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
- I've replied on Wikipedia talk:Cite sources. SlimVirgin (talk) 04:25, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
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- Hi Frank, could you leave comments about articles on the article talk page, please? Cheers, SlimVirgin (talk) 04:53, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Your note
Frank, thank you for going to all that trouble. It looks very interesting, and I'll try to get back to you within the next couple of days. Cheers, SlimVirgin (talk) 23:10, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Looking for articles to work on?
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