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One question: You've claimed that the mandora was not an ancestor of the mandolin. What's the basis for this? What are the ancestors of the mandolin? Andrewa 06:11, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Тhanks for the PD tip. Mandora has nothing to do with mandolin. The latter is simply a soprano or sopranino lute of the 18th century. Mandola/mandolino family is a later Neapolitan invention incorporating violin tuning. Galassi 11:57, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Mandora and mandolin

True, the mandola and mandolin came later, and use violin tuning. Are those the only reasons that you think that the mandolin is not a descendent of the mandora? Andrewa 15:23, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

No. In technical terms modern mandolin is a NEAPOLITAN hybrid of MANDOLINO (a 6-course soprano lute of Vivaldi's time) with a VIOLIN. The MANDORA/GALLICHON subfamily is of a different geographic realm (Austria, Germany, Bohemia. This group is made of much larger instruments, with a lot more strings, and its descendant is the German Wandervogel Laute, still seen occasionally. Galassi 15:44, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

You certainly sound knowledgeable on the subject. The old Grove I have describes two forms of mandolin or mandoline (It. Mandolino), the Neopolitan with four courses tuned in fifths, and the Milanese, with five courses tuned G C A D E or six courses tuned G B E A D E. I have always known the four-course violin-tuned mandolin as the Neopolitan mandolin (I've been playing it for thirty years).
This Grove also states that there is a larger and scarcer instrument called Mandora or Mandola, but gives no other details.
Tell me more about the Wandervogel Laute and Mandolino. Andrewa 05:58, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Тthere were many types of Mandolini in Italy before the Neapolitan type came along, Milanese/Lombardo, Bresciano, Veneziano, usually with 6 double strings. You might want to contact Davide Rebuffa for info, he is a real expert on them. Wandervogel Laute is a German contraption, sort of a guitar-lute with 6 to 10 strings, associated with German folk revival in the 19th century. You can see one in LADYKILLERS by the Cohen brothers. Galassi 12:22, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bandura

Are Yousure that this photo Image:Kytasty.jpg is better? It shows rather player than instrument! Radomil talk 20:40, 4 May 2006 (UTC) The Trio below shows instruments nicely. Galassi 00:01, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Someone else put it in and I did not want to touch it because I know the guys. I didn't want to make anyone upsety.

Bandurist 16:57, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Caravaggio

A mediation case has been started regarding the sexuality of Caravaggio. Your comments would be appreciated. Lauren 13:11, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Question about the source of an image

Hi! I saw the image of Archlute you uploaded (Image:Sallas.jpg). The picture seems to have been taken in a proper studio and the instrument looks really old... I was very impressed. I am just curious about the owner of the instrument. Is this an original instrument you own? Aotake 03:32, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

I took the photo in Paris museum many years ago.Galassi 11:59, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Ah. Is this museum Cité de la musique? Aotake 16:24, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

At the time it was a different one, CDLM was created some years later, from several preexisting museums. BTW, since you are interested in lutes, you may write to me directly at maven13cATyahooDOTcom Galassi 10:25, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you! Well, actually I don't know very much about lutes, but I like listening (and playing) early music. So I enjoy reading and translating Wikipedia articles on music, and I am hoping for their continuous improvement. For the instrument of Sellas, I think it will be much more helpful for other users (especially for those who love early music) if you give more specific information about the instrument (e.g. the owner and the catalog number). To tell the truth, it would be nice if this image was uploaded to Commons, so that Wikipedia on other languages can also use it, but I am a little bit concerned about the copyright matter, and for the moment, I am reluctant to upload it to Commons. Aotake 15:47, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Interesting idea. I have a lot of photos of old lutes, and would be glad to put them up to Commons, as sooon as I clarify copyright on them.Galassi 20:27, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chitarrone

Hi there - general scholarly consensus that the Chitarrone is identical with the Theorbo, being an earlier name for the same instrument. They have the same size, tuning and function, and are built identically. I refer you to Robert Spencer's article in Early Music, available here: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/spencer/html/spencer.htm - this is considered the definitive work in sorting out the hitherto confused usages of 'Theorbo', 'Chitarrone' and 'Archlute'.

Are you thinking of some other instrument perhaps? The Chitarrone has 14 double or single courses, is usually tuned in A, and has both top courses down an octave.


They are similar but not quite. Theorbo OFTEN was double-strung, while chitarrone was always strung singly. Really these are 2 different instruments that became extremely similar in the course of evolution, but it is important to emphacize the subtle differences. The Spencer article is a little dated, its high quality notwithstanding.Galassi 20:23, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

The Meucci notwithstanding - the general scholarly consensus among lute players and makers is that Robert Spencer's definitions still hold, and I know of no luthier who believes that Chitarrone and Theorbo are not synonyms. InfernoXV 00:34, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Ted, Have you read the Meucci article? Ask on the lutenet.Galassi 00:55, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ukraine Portal

Hi there! I see you have create some Ukraine-related article. May I ask that you announce them at the Ukrainian Portal New article announcements board so that other Ukrainian users may see them?. Thanks, —dima/s-ko/ 02:31, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Lute pictures

I uploaded some lute pictures you posted at Lute, on Commons so other wikis can use them. Hope it's all right with you..--Dardorosso 15:44, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Fallo pure.Galassi 21:52, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Scenic design

This is a subjective opinion and not a reason to place him before Franco Zeffirelli, among others. By the way, why don't you announce your new article on Portal:Russia/New article announcements? --Ghirla -трёп- 18:59, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Tsypin is an American desighner born in Kazakhstan. In the US he is considered to be #1 in our field, same in Europe.Galassi 19:15, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

ps. Zeffirelli is mainly a DIRECTOR (i.e. rezhisër), not a designer.Galassi 19:17, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Prosper Mérimée

Цыганы шумною толпой по Бессарабии кочуют... - Introvert • ~ 00:41, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Polish nationalists

It seems that such a Polish nationalists like Beaumont try to destroy the following lists: Ukrainians, Poles, Polish Jews, Ukrainian Jews, etc. Now, not only anonymouses but also registered persons like "Le Grande", "Beaumont" and others, with pretensional nicknames intend to create a virtual idealogical reality. Look at their activity, please. You can contact with an admin Runcorn to stop these tight nationalists and anti-Semitic wikipedists. Mibelz, PhD, a Galician. 23:10, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Please go to the Talk:Stefan Banach page. To put it short: what are your sources to insist that Banach or Steinhaus were Ukrainians? See WP:RS, WP:VER (note that according to these policies other wikipedias are _not_ sources we use!). Please stop if you can not substantiate your edits. --Beaumont (@) 15:04, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] On Boris Pasternak

Pasternak's father, Leonid Pasternak, did not convert in his lifetime. He himself states this in his reply to the famous article by Bialik (reprinted in almanac "Год за годом", Moscow, 1989). Documents on Boris Pasternak's circumcision in Jewish tradition and on his and his parents belonging to the Jewish faith (иудейское вероисповедание) at the time of his admission to Moscow University have been published more than a decade ago (originally in collection of documents "Лица" [www.vestnik.com/issues/2003/0806/win/shalit.htm cf see details]), then in two detailed biographies of Boris Pasternak (by Natalia Ivanova and by Dmitry Bykov). Letter by Boris Pasternak to his father from Marburg (1912), where he discusses the very impossibility of conversion from Jewish faith is widely known. --SimulacrumDP 16:33, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

I will check on this.Galassi 17:29, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] On Osip Mandelshtam's conversion

Sergei Averintsev (Сергей Аверинцев; a major Russian literary theorist and philosopher) in his detailed introduction to the first two-volume collection of Mandelstam's ouvre (Moscow, 1989) states that Mandelstam converted to Lutheranism immediately prior to his entrance to University and did not practiced this faith thereafter; Averintsev concludes that the reason for this conversion was most likely trying to make it easier to enter the University, avoiding the 3% quota on Jewish students. This is why Lutheranism was chosen by the poet as it had been by most of those seeking fast conversion: it was much easier than conversion to Orthodox Christianity at the time and did not bear the same stigma in the Jewish community. See it being discussed in this encyclopedia entry, in Russian--SimulacrumDP 16:56, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

OM mentiones Methodism himself, and not as act of opportunism but rather as a resulf of богоискательство, per Y.Petrovsky-Stern. Galassi 17:28, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Mandelstam never mentions the fact in his writings and did not practice the Lutheran faith post-conversion, - that's precisely why these authors suppose that the reason was more mundane (he applied for entrance to the Peterburg University right after this in 1910 and was accepted the next year). Methodist was highly uncommon faith in Russia, but most common for converts trying to intermarry or move out of the Pale of Settlement (many future revolutionaries did so). As to OM, although his wife was Orthodox Christian, he himself didn't practice any religion... --SimulacrumDP 13:28, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

http://www.aalto.vbg.ru/Unit3/contacts5.shtm Galassi 20:13, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the link - this is precisely what I was saying: Mandelstam's brother confirms that, which Averintsev (mentioned in the article) only suggested: he was heading towards University. BTW, your own citation in the text says exactly the same...--SimulacrumDP 03:16, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

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