Talk:Guangxi Zhuang national football team

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[edit] Verification

This team has a broken link as the only source, and google searches only turns up lots of mirrors of this page. Can anyone provice more information on this team?--Huaiwei 08:39, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Not sure from when on did the page plug off from the Internet. Perhaps the only way to verify is to write to the owner of that page. — Instantnood 08:44, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Contact the owner of a page which cannot be loaded? It is far easier to contact the person who wrote this page with such flimsy verification. Who wrote this page?--Huaiwei 10:09, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Details were taken from that webpage, at the time it could be loaded. — Instantnood 10:23, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

And there are no other sources to replace it? Appears to me that this is a potential candidate for deletion soon for being practically non-notable.--Huaiwei 10:46, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Every national teams that have played in international matches are notable. The website that I mentioned did exist. It provided information on all international teams and matches. I'd advise you to contact the owner of that website to verify the information. — Instantnood 10:54, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Not all teams who play in international matches are notable, or national for that matter. If this team is notable, then find us other sources to valifidy. If not, it gets deleted.--Huaiwei 11:14, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Glad that the page is still available through the cache of Google [1]. — Instantnood 12:42, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

And that is your only source? Do you have any idea if this team exists now? Who are its players? Who manages it? When was it formed? And could you demonstrate its notability? Or perhaps lets just do it in VFD instead?--Huaiwei 13:24, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Nobody is saying that this team is an existing one. (If only presently existing teams are notable enough to have entries on Wikipedia, Saarland national football team may have to be deleted too.) I am not sure if a Guangxi team is currently existing and plays in the inter-province matches in mainland China though. — Instantnood 13:37, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

I am quite sure I did not mention the reason for its deletion is due to its existance/non-existance. That you do not even know if a Guangxi team exists highlights its non-notability and your lack of credibility in this subject matter.--Huaiwei 13:52, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

The owner of the site said in the response to my e-mail inquiry that he collected the information from internet sources, and by asking the various federations through e-mails. He was not aware that the website is not accessible from some locations. — Instantnood 07:49, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Mind asking him to show us the sources he used, and the email addresses of the relevant football association in question? Telling us you had an discussion with him is obviously not enough since it is not a verificable source, although I must applaude you for finally talking some form of initiative this time.--Huaiwei 13:42, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

No problem. But I would suggest you to ask him directly, since I won't be able to know exactly what you want. — Instantnood 15:17, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

I think my request above is crystal-clear, unless you are telling me you need to change

en This user is a native speaker of English. to en-0 This person does not understand English (or understands it with considerable difficulties).

in User:Instantnood.--Huaiwei 15:58, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Seriously... why cannot you request yourself? I'm not the person complaining there's not enough backing information, am I? If you're a prosecutor are you going to assume a suspect guilty and request her/him to prove her/himself to be innocent? — Instantnood 16:50, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Because it is the onus of the contributer to verify his contributions, and not expect others to blow the whistle before they then ironically demand that the whistle-blower do the research to counter his contributions? This is, may I remind once again, a basic wikipedia policy. If you are going to continue contravening it by thinking you can keep adding low-quality and badly (or simply un-)verified information to wikipedia, then expect to have your contributions constantly scrutinised and questioned. There is no escaping it unless you pull up your own socks.

And why do I constantly get this impression that you are refusing to do as requested because your ego is getting in the way?--Huaiwei 18:22, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion

I am now giving a seven-day grace period, before I nominate this article for deletion. If new evidence and information can be offered during this time, then I will consider dropping the nomination. Thanks!--Huaiwei 09:24, 7 October 2005 (UTC)