Talk:Heinrich Ehrler

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Heinrich Ehrler biography and article.

Hallo out there... you WW2 pilot guys, I'm Dennis Kenyon, an ex Royal Air Force, English pilot who is about to retire into writing. I've been flying for a little over 53 years.

I've been commissioned to write an article and possibly and aviation book on the wonderful German Ace, Heinrich Ehrler and am seeking information from others, and in particular from any family descendents.

I am currently working with another English pilot, who is rebuilding an ME109, which was formally flown by Ehrler. I have a significant amount of information and history of the 109, but need to know dates, history, squadrons, locations, etc, and when Ehrler was flying the type.

I have a story that somewhat conflicts with the information provided on this site.

I understand that he was not Court Marshalled for failing to act correctly with the interception of RAF 617 Lancasters headed for the Tirpitz. My researches reveal, that on that operation he instructed his squadron to continue to the allocated target which was to protect the Tirpitz, and broke off to engage the IL2 aircraft he had sighted. It was this IL2 that gave him his 200th 'Kill.' However, the Russian aircraft was carrying very senior Russian Officers, who were on their way to a meeting with Adolph Hitler to discuss a possible Truce programme. It was for this offence, which had significant political implications, that he was Court Marshalled.

I believe, that Heinrich Ehrler felt that since he had been treated so badly by the German war machine, and knew the war was lost, that he subsequently made his 208th kill by flying into the tail of the RAF aircraft.

If any aviation history experts can help me with any item regarding this great German pilot, or his aircraft and missions, I would really appreciate them making contact. Please use e-mail. DennisRKenyon @aol.com For some details of myself, kindly link to www.dennis-kenyon.com

Great flying to you all.

Dennis Kenyon.

[edit] Kills

1. According to the article, Ehrler had 11 kills on 22 April 1942, which rose to 64 by 4 September 1942. This works out to about 53 kills in 13 days. Is this correct ?

I do believe there is an error there - and that the correct date is 20 or 22 July for his 11 kills and promotion. The problem is different sources vary. Abel29a 20:54, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I have changed it to the more probable 20 July date, however I have also added a note describing the uncertainty. If somebody could offer a definitive answer it would be good.

2. In the 'Continued flying' section, para 1, it states: "bringing his total tally to 208". In the next paragraph it states: "shooting down 2 B17 bombers". Does that not make his total 210 ?

I see what you mean - I'll rewrite for better language. What is meant is that he had a further 8 kills from being transfered to JG 7 and until the end of the war. The shooting down two and ramming a third part was merely the last three of the 8 kills.Abel29a 20:54, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

RASAM 15:09, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] vandalism

i reverted some vandalism by Fcbaseball. if i knew how to report him for the vandalism, i would. Parsecboy 18:21, 25 October 2006 (UTC)