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Maybe my memory is faulty - but I remember the name Wyvern being proposed for what became Hereford and Worcester. It was a combination of "Wye" Valley and "Malvern" Hills. Don't know how official it was...Lozleader 22:10, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

And interestingly, there is a Wyvern FM covering Herefordshire and Worcestershire!
My copy of The Process of Local Government Reform 1966-1974 by Bruce Wood has this to say about the namings:
The Bill also named the new counties [which had not been named in the White Paper]. Most, of course, were continuations of existing counties, but a few caused problems. Tyneside was not a name to command support in Sunderland and was changed during parliamentary proceedings to Tyne and Wear. Malvernshire was a compromise for the combined Herefordshire-Worcestershire county, but, again, was unpopular locally and, contrary to the Government's policy of seeking to avoid lengthy names, later became Hereford and Worcester. Cumbria, Humberside and Avon all proved generally acceptable, but Teesside was altered to Cleveland in order to demonstrate that this physically small county was not to be thought of as little more than an extension of the only recently created Teesside county borough.
Morwen - Talk 22:21, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
Also, the BBC claim that Casualty's hometown, Holby, is in "the fictional county of Wyvern [...] in South West England, not far from the Welsh border." [1] This has apparently been shown on screen. Wyvern has a similar story, except with Wye and Severn which seems more plausible, and [2] dates the radio station to 1982, with that explanation. There's no heraldic wyvern on Hereford and Worcester arms (1978) - which should surely have been inevitable had the name been proposed before then, whether or not it was rejected. So my guess it was invented before or by the radio station. Morwen - Talk 08:17, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
There *used* to be a website with some information on the Hereford and Worcester arms, but it disappeared years ago. Basically it said the College of Arms came up with a design which was thrown out by the county council, somebody locally designing the arms as granted. There might have ben a wyvern in there at one stage. Lozleader 17:45, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Regarding the first para at the top of this talk page. Hooray! My memory works. Lozleader 23:30, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Yay. Also, this talk page is evidently where I got the idea that the arms had a Wyvern on. Morwen - Talk 23:34, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

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