Talk:Jurassic Park III

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Contents 1 Spino vs Rex 2 "Billy, Stop!" Why? 3 Fan created "explanation" for different appearance of island in II and III 4 what do you think attacked the boat? 5 Peter Pan joke(s?)

[edit] Spino vs Rex

That fight was a lie, Rex was a better fighter then Spinosaurus and its been proven by scientists. Its true, the Spino was bigger then Rex but the Spino mainly fed on fish and anything easy while the Rex fed on herbivores or other Carnivores, some say Rex was a scavenger but thats pretty hard to beleive with the way its teeth are shaped and such.

• Vultures are notorious scavengers, but their beaks are no less sharp than a falcons. Lions are known to steal killed prey from heyenas, but their teeth are no less sharp. Sharp teeth are primarily used to tear and rend, something that would be needed whether prey was caught or stolen/happened upon. Blunt teeth are mainly used for mashing, which is fine as most plants don't need anything else done to them to be digestable, while meat needs to be torn into smaller fragments. Further, some comments by Jack Horner in the special features make it quite clear that his opinion was that Spinosaurus was a predator. While I'm not necessarily agreeing or disagreeing with Horner, there's a provable source for the concept of the T-Rex losing in the fight to the Spino. While, yes, part of the fight's outcome was determined based on a desire for story elements, the concept that the Spino would be a better fighter has at least that stated source. Last Thylacine 09:24, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

The Spino was a dumb idea since the Rex was the main animal in The Lost World and Jurassic Park.... koolboi141 14:11, 28 May 2006

I agree, Jack Horner is very biased against the T-Rex, the Spino sucked...although, I wouldn't mind a Gigonotosaurus as the main dino in JP4 Jamandell (d69) 19:01, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

I think that it is best to keep personnel opinions to ones self being. However I'm not stating against facts. So, if most people read more about the Tyrannosaurus, they would understand why it was more suggested to have been a predator, than a scavenger.

• If you look closely at the Tyrannosaurus' legs, it clearly hints that it had the longest legs of any land animal( for it's body size) that has ever lived. Noting it could run from 25-35mph.
• Also, the Tyrannosaurs teeth were the thickest and sharpest of any predatory dinosaur ever discovered. Hint: those teeth would kill anything if bitten. Which doesn't clear up to me as to why when the T-Rex bit onto the Spinosaurs head, and dragged across the forest floor, knocking down a tree,the Spinosaurus lived.

Keep your personal opinions to your self, this is an encyclopedia, not a place to discuss about who thinks what dinosaur is better then what. Spinosaur 10:49, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Isn't it worth noting that many fans didn't like the Rex vs Spino fight? The above conversation and several threads on the IMDb message boards for this movie seem to prove it. I think it should be mentioned as one of the reasons why the reaction towards JPIII was rather bad. --Name Theft Victim 16:53, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Maybe, but the conversation above it talking about how Tyrannosaurus is better than Spinosaurus. Witch is more of a personal opinion than an actual fact. Spinosaur 12:32, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Either way, my addition on the Rex-Spino fight was removed from the article, and I have no idea why. --Name Theft Victim 18:44, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Personally I think that the Spino idea, as far as the dinosaur, was great! I think that the T-Rez and the Spino should've fought at the end and the Rex killed the Spino, that way they were both throughout the whole movie. That's my opinion. And that other carnivor dino should've been in it more, you know the one that ran away after smelling the poop. That's the one that should've gotten killed in the beginning.

Is there somewhere stating in the article these facts? considering that Spinosaurus mandible and skull were more elongated and lon low narrow snout than the Tyrannosaurids, whoes skull was built for power. Enlil Ninlil 05:46, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Here's a paragraph I wrote (this is just a theory):

If these two dinosaurs had met and fought with each other, it is probable that Spinosaurus would have been victorious. Tyrannosaurus's main weapon was its jaws, which were some of the strongest of any creature ever to have lived. Spinosaurus, however, would not have been able to use its jaws as an effective weapon. The main reason that Spinosaurus would have been successful in defeating Tyrannosaurus is that Spinosaurus was significantly larger, and could have knocked its opponent down easily. After the Spinosaurus had achieved this, it could have used its weight as an advantage and stepped on the Tyrannosaurus. Spinosaurus also probably had a large, curved hand claw that it could have driven into the Tyrannosaurus's backbone. Benosaurus 17:42, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Spinosaurus wasn't larger it was just longer. It was also light weight and T-Rex would have won with its powerful jaws.Lokon40 23:59, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Billy, Stop!" Why?

Before Billy jumped, what was Alan thinking? Was he thinking Billy was going to comment suicide?

Alan simply thought it would be too much of a risk.--Name Theft Victim 03:06, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

But did Alan really think he was going to do what he did?

[edit] Fan created "explanation" for different appearance of island in II and III

The only thing worse than unenyclopedic, unfactual, unverifiable, original research information is somebody reinstating it after it is removed. The fact is that a different location was used in each movie; fine nothing wrong with explaining that in the trivia section. However, going on to state some mumbo jumbo about each movie taking place on different parts of the island to explain away this "error" is just plain silly. The makers of the movie did not intend this, and, quite frankly, probably did not care whether the island looked the same in both movies or not. Therefore, this information is entirely fan creation and in no way encyclopedic. I therefore removed this little tidbit only to discover that someone had put it back in. The statement clearly violates wikipedia policy, and reverting my change is akin to vandalism. I do hope this stops. Indrian 04:49, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] what do you think attacked the boat?

I mean there is never no metetion of sea monsters or anything like that. and anything flying would have not been able to sink the boat so quick.

I think its an aquatic reptile such as a plesiosaur. Perhaps it could be the same deal as the spino, a creature that wasnt on InGen's list.

It could have been a spinosaurus, since many believe the animal to have hunted fish. The moviemakers made the jump to assume that it would sometimes roam totally submerged in rivers in one scene, so it wouldn't surprise me if they assumed it also journeyed out to sea....it's a movie, lots of unfounded assumptions are going to be made.

[edit] Peter Pan joke(s?)

I think the whatever-o-saurus announcing his appearance with the ringing cell phone he swallowed is a reference to the crocodile from Peter Pan doing the same because it swallowed a clock. With some knowledge of American popular culture this seems obvious, but I am reluctant to add it to the article, because it would seem like polluting trivia and it is OR on my part. I'd like some opinions. — Mütze 12:15, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree, I thought the same thing while watching that scene. However I would advise against adding it without some sort of verifiability behind the statement. This is actually the first time I've ever heard it being brought up. But if you do happen to find something to back it up, maybe some random interview somewhere, it sure would be a great addition!--Arkcana 04:55, 11 December 2006 (UTC)