Talk:Kaworu Nagisa
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[edit] Kaworu's Gender
The article states "Kaworu is... an asexual androgyne". Because this information is not explicitly presented in ep. 24 of the series, I was wondering if there was any way of verifying the validity of this statement. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Capthauq (talk • contribs) .
- You'd think that if he were androgynous it would have come out in the bathhouse wouldn't you? Why don't I just change None (appears male) to Male (?) ? 67.21.80.96 19:21, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Kaworu's Birthdate
Does anyone else find it interesting that Kaworu's human form should be born on the very day of the Second Impact?-R.G. 22:20, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Kaworu and Kaji?
Did anyone else think that it was extremely odd that Kaworu and Kaji had the same voice in the dubbed anime, as well as the same sort of mannerisms? Well, other than the blatant flirtation. I was originally lead to believe that Kaworu was taken from Kaji's DNA, but given that he was "born", I'm wondering. Given Kagi's connection to SEELE as well as his connection to Shinji, maybe it's possible that his DNA was used, or maybe he was even Kaworu's father. He would have been 15-- fairly young, but still. My personal opinion is, that if there's a connection, it leans towards Kaworu from Kaji's DNA, or at least purposefully taking on some kind of characteristic from Kaji for some reason. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.72.98.45 (talk • contribs) .
- Your speculation is interested but that is probably false. Hiroki Sato, the director and spokesman of GAINAX said that Kaworu had no special model while declared Rei Ayanami was modeled on Yui Ikari :moreover Kaworu and Kaji have the different voice in Japanese original series. -Rider of Midland 05:17, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, the same voice actor doesn't always imply a direct connection. For example, Scott McNeil played four seperate characters during the Transformers series, Beast Wars (Dinobot, Waspinator, Silverbolt and Rattrap, I believe.) That's your totally unrelated tidbit for the day. Onslaught Six 07:58, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] homosexuality
Would it be worth mentioning in the homosexuality section that Kaworu seems to have a lisp in the English dub, which is commonly associated with homosexuals (at least in American culture)? --Capibara 01:07, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Would it be worth mentioning? No, not really. There is no way anyone would find a lisp in either english dub. Drunktrumpet 20:37, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
I took a shot at rewriting the section to weed out the speculative content and de-weasel it. Hopefully, I succeeded, or at least put it on the right track. I also took out the weasel template, but if anyone has objections or sees weasely content in my edits, please replace it. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 18:16, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
I find it incredoulous that anyone would think of Tabris as a homosexual/heterosexual. He is an angel/apostole (i.e. of another world) who expresses nothing but pure love for another being. There is no sexual inference to be gotten at all on Kaworu's part. He/She/It acts the way any being would act trying to figure out humanity and all its trappings. Slightly bizzare and odd. I am not homophobic at all. But it amuses me to no end when certain memebers of a group feel the need to project its lifestyle/genetic bearing unto anything that might lend itself credence in popular culture. Maybe Jesus was gay, he did say that he loved all men. Right? Drunktrumpet 19:47, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- I agree; I don't think normal sexual roles can be assigned to Kaworu. Still, as long as this series exists, there will be those who only see the surface of his interactions with Shinji and infer homosexual overtones. It can't be helped or avoided. Also, in regards to the section about this issue in the article: Personal views are not appropriate content for Wikipedia. The facts of the content in the series and the notes about the fan debate are all that belong in that section. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 20:19, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Duly noted. Drunktrumpet 20:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] End of Evangelion
Is the info presented in the last edit about Kaworu merging with Adam after his death cited anywhere? Willbyr (talk | contribs) 06:13, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
Something that I've been thinking about in EoE, tying into the debate about whether or not Kaworu and Shinji are in love: Does fan debate include Shinji's reaction to when Lilith/Rei changes into Kaworu, just before the start of Instrumentality? Willbyr (talk | contribs) 20:59, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Kaworu's line to Shinji
In the article, the sentence about Kaworu saying that he "likes" Shinji is a bit muddled. Does anyone know the exact line in Japanese that Kaworu says to Shinji? Seems to me that it would be easier to give the line in Japanese and then explain that the term can mean either "like" or "love". Willbyr (talk | contribs) 05:04, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
- In Japanese line Kaworu seid to Shinji as below:
- Kaworu: ガラスのように繊細だね、特に君の心は
- Shinji: 僕が？
- Kaworu: そう、好意に値するよ
- Shinji: コウイ？
- Kaworu: 好きってことさ
- I don't know how these lines was translated in English dub, but I feel "like" is more suitable for "好意" and "好き" than "love" is. However it is a difficult translation. Rider of Midland 05:56, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] How is Kaworu?
How does Kaworu appear in Lilith if his soul was never collected by Rei?--Sandmen never sleeps 02:07, 1 December 2006 (UTC)Ganderman 7:34 23 November 2006
[edit] When did....?
When, in the series, did they say that Kaworu's soul was put into Adam? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ganderman (talk • contribs).
- You've got it backwards. If I remember right, Kaworu tells Rei in the director's cut of ep. 24 that he is the vessel for Adam's soul, just as Rei is the vessel for Lilith's soul. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 02:42, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
- UPDATE: Hang on...if you're referring to the line where Kaworu's soul was placed in the embryonic Adam after he was killed by Shinji, I don't have an answer for that. I'm not comfortable with that line and haven't been since I first saw it, but I don't have a source to say anything different. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 02:45, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
I don't remember them saying that they put his soul into Adam's body and if it not said in the series, I'm going to get rid of that line in the article.--Ganderman 15:24, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Rejected form
If Angels are rejected forms of humanity as Misato said, and mankind is the 18th angel, why is Kaworu in the form of a normal human? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dave175 (talk • contribs).
