Talk:Lachine, Quebec

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Copy reinserted. Objectivity and historical truths. What application of historical evidence is the presumed editor basing his/her dispute on? In fact, all historical elements of a community are based upon observation and recording. Would the editor of the features of Lachine care to give evidence that Lachine is not composed of the elements in the deleted copy? The complete deletion of the feature copy, without sufficient specific dispute, is then based solely on the opinion(s) of the presumed editor. Those opinions are, of course, valid in the event that they address in a constructive way the specified copy. However, this was not done. Copy re-instated.

This section is still full of statements that do not belong in this type of article. What is the author's objective proof that this neighbourhood is either the "proudest" or the "most impoverished"? "Known as a hangout for local troubled teens, and easy access to drugs" by whom? Who knows this? It either is a hangout or it isn't. What is the imperical evidence that people in this neighbour are either "hard working" or "decent"? This is a value judgment that simply isn't verifiable. Was the demise of the "local eatery a "disaster"? "Sad generational legacy of loss" is not verifable either. "Although these tragedies affected most in the neighbourhood" - what evidence is there for this statement?

Idesofmontreal 19:41, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Edit has referenced as followed "most impoverished community" and stated not accurate. Quotation is taken out of context...reference "One of Lachine's proudest and yet most impoverished communities".

Personal reflections of some elements have been removed. Clean up of grammar and syntax. Drug usage and "troubled teens" are reflective of a reality the previous edit does not recognise. Lack of recognition of this reality by the edit does not provide sufficient reason to exclude it.

Historical framework, albeit of a personal nature, (more than one author has contributed) is necessary to establish information regarding a community within a community. Lachine has many features with historical and small community links. It is hoped that other areas of Lachine (regardless of size) will contibute to an in depth view of Lachine. These should include historical events and current demographics.

The paragraph describing "One of Lachine's proudest and yet most impoverished communities ... located on the southern end of 45th Avenue across from Stoney Point Park" is very odd. This whole section is a purely personal reflection on the transformation of a very small (and insignificant) area of Lachine. There is still some low-income housing on 45th Avenue, situated within walking distance of the riverfront. But "troubled teens" and "access to drugs" are not more prevalent in this neighbourhood than any other. To describe it as the "most impoverished community" in Lachine is not accurate. Some of Lachine's Canada Day celebrations are indeed staged in the Park. But the "inflated Slush Puppy balloon" has not appeared in the last six years. And the disappearance of the three restaurants is hardly the "disastrous tragedy" to Lachine youth that the author protrays.

Idesofmontreal 02:06, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Text from FEATURES section removed:

"One of Lachine's proudest and yet most impoverished communities is located on the southern end of 45th Avenue across from Stoney Point Park. Known as a hangout for local troubled teens, and easy access to drugs, it has a rich heritage of housing some of Lachine's less fortunate, but hard working and decent families. It is situated within walking distance of the river front which also hosts Lachine's Canada Day celebration. Major attractions to the celebration include a local store's inflated Slush Puppy(tm) balloon. In 1997 disaster struck this community, a local eatery, Orlando Patate, fell victim to a major gas fire. This continued the sad generational legacy of loss, the closing of the famous Charlie's restaurant, and the closing of equally well known Miss Dixie restaurant. Generations of Lachine youth can now only recall in memory the fine hamburgers of Charlie's Restaurant, or the hours listening to the jukebox at the Miss Dixie restaurant. Although these tragedies affected most in the neighbourhood, the area was rejuvenated with the development of condominiums. Local shops have had a high turn-around rate, but due to recent gentrification this community's economic recession has ended."