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Talk:Lada and Lado

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Not that I really cared, but the front page says that there is a dispute going on at the talk page, while I see none... Halibutt 16:44, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

According to Brockhaus-Efron, Lada is a fake Slavic goddess invented by early Polish historians Dlugosz and Stryjkowski. As proved by Academician Potebnya ("Einleitung in die Slaviscbe Ltieraturgehscichte"), this name was derived by Polish historians from an exclamation used in Slavic folk songs. --Ghirlandajo 17:08, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

Correct! There never realy was any Lado or Lada godesses, the whole thing is a misconception (not to say invention) of Slavic humanists during Renesaince, fueled up by later romantic or neopagan views of certain historians. -- Hier0phant 11:38, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Can you modify the article accordingly? --Ghirlandajo 11:51, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
I am currently doing that. --Hier0phant 13:22, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

This is really slanted POV. This is disputed, so it shouldn't be presented as fact. Ralston in "Songs of the Russian People" disputes this interpretation and considers it to have been rebutted. I think that instead of openly declaring this to be "fakelore" that both sides of the argument should be presented. Maybe those Renaissance "Slavic humanists" were on to something. In any case, one should let the public decide rather than deciding for them, don't you think? And if this is truly the case, then we should have ample quotations from those Slavic humanists so that we can make our own decisions. Declaring this to have simply been "fueled up" by romantic historians is to insult their integrity or ability to reason. If indeed historians thought this, perhaps we should give it a little more weight than being flippant about it. The quotations that declare that Lado's name was "obviously" an exclamation are open to other interpretations, of which a prominent one is that indeed there was a deity or folk figure of some sort named Lado. This really needs to be corrected.

[edit] This is inspirational!

My name is Lada, believe it or not. I've always told people it's derrived from the name of a slavic goddes of love; how nice to know that it's actually "nonsense and meaningless"; thanks for that! Feb 2006

Don't Fret. . .I too am Lada (though I go by Goddess of Spring) there is a Spiritual feeling to this name and the few I have met or heard of with it seem to suit it. . .so be proud, you are a Goddess no matter what the article says. L:)May 2006

[edit] Original research

Just to let you know, I've added an original research tag to the article. Not that I personally doubt any of it, as it seems fairly logical and rightly so. But the thing is that as long as most of the article remains without sources or sitations, it could easily misconstrued as being non-factual. You are free to remove it as you please, and please let me know if I acted too hastily. Satanael 18:47, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

  • The source for the whole article is given at the bottom of the page. The facts listed here are several centuries old, so I don't see how any of this could be original research. And if you read what Ghirla has pointed out above, you will notice the same thing was stated in Brockhaus-Efron encyclopedia and in an article "Einleitung in die Slaviscbe Ltieraturgehscichte" by certain Potebyna. I did not use those as a refrence (simply because I am not familiar with either), but if you insist on multiple sources, you may ask him to list these two in refrence section.--Hierophant 21:20, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

I was looking for the Meaning of the word Lado, to see the comparison of the word, Lado, in Punjabi language, which is used as a nick name for a pampered and adored young girl. I find it very interesting to come across a similar word in the slavic language with similar to comparable meanings.

[edit] Mater Verborum?

I've read somewhere that Lada is mentioned in Mater Verborum. However, since I've never even looked at it, and I have no theoretical way of finding it, I cannot claim for sure Zaebangad 00:42, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

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