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Contents 1 Céline Hervieux-Payette 2 Ignatieff and Iraq 3 Joe Comuzzi? 4 Candidates' ability to speak French 5 Maurizio Bevilacqua quit 6 Ashley MacIsaac 7 Caucus supporters and bilingual proficiency 8 Page protection and pov pushing 9 Deleted images 10 Mention betting websites? (Prediction Markets) 11 Trivia 12 Newspaper Endorsements 12.1 Are you a Montrealer? Or going to the convention otherwise? 13 Results Viewer

[edit] Céline Hervieux-Payette

What is the source for Celine Hervieux-Payette not being a candidate? Has she endorsed anyone? -- Hieronymus Bosch

She endorsed Stéphane Dion on 2 November 2006.

[edit] Ignatieff and Iraq

Ignaiteff's position on Iraq is a little more nuanced then "Ignatieff remains a staunch supporter of the 2003 Invasion of Iraq ". I removed that line cause the Ignatieff page has more info and would like to remove it again. Geedubber 05:02, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps rather than removing the line you could make it more "nuanced"? Ignatieff's views on the war is a major demarcation line between him and all the other candidates save Brison and was a major issue in the two all candidate debates held so far so it does merit highlighting. Homey 05:12, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

The censors of this site are going to be sorry When Ignatiefff loses the leadership contest. Why is he going to lose? Because you delete any truth about Ignatieff . So be warned if this is deleted Ignatieff wll lose the leadership contest. If you can't even say the truth about Ignatieff in the discussion page then Ignatieff will not be the next Liberal leader. When Ignatieff loses don't forget to tell him it was your fault for deleting any truth about Ignatieff .

Is that supposed to be an incentive to keeping this article conforming to Wikipedia standards or not? Heh. --Hamiltonian 18:25, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

I hope your comment stays. 8 August 2006 --M. T. W.

--Hamiltonian how is it keeping to "Wikipedia standards" deleting an actual printed column link? When unqoted reference to Ignatiefff and trudeau was deleted a comment was left that said: if it was quoted from someone it wouldn't be deleted. But an article by Worthington, printed in The Toronto Sun was taken away by you. It was a quote. A whole article of a quote. --M. T. W.

This page is not about columnists supporting Michael Ignatieff. It's about the Liberal Party of Canada leadership convention, 2006. For endorsements, it appears to have been agreed upon to keep track of only caucus endorsements. There are two whole other pages dedicated to tracking other endorsements as well. --Hamiltonian 19:13, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Now explain the commentary part on Ignatiefff. Why is any statement about how right wing Ignatiefff deleted? --M. T. W.

Because it was clearly just someone's opinion. This isn't a bulletin board - it's an encyclopedia. Would you except to see the random opinions of some editor an encyclopedia? No. A blog? Sure. A book of commentary? Yep. Here? Noo. --Hamiltonian 19:36, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Are you a suporter of Ignatiefff? --M. T. W.

Hamiltonian writes:"seriously. wikipedia is not a forum. not the main article, nor the talk pages. there are lots of internet forums out there." How do you know what these "discussion" section of these pages are for? If you ever read an encyclopedia you'd know the contributors all have a bias. Many a time I've read something that is strongly written and ask myself: "who wrote this?" --M. T. W.

I know what the "discussion" section is because of official wikipedia policy. The "discussion" sections are for the discussion of the article, not discussion about the topic of the article. I agree that many encyclopedias have bias. Those are called bad encyclopedias. And I'm not an Ignatieff supporter: I'm a supporter of Wikipedia, though. --Hamiltonian 21:04, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

• A quick note: User M.T.W. is actually Jane Benn. -- 198.20.40.50 23:57, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Proper research done on Ignatieff proves that he was in favour of the invasion of Iraq prior to the 2003 invasion by the united states. He called for intervention due to the human rights abuses that occured in the 1980's. Szpak 14:05, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Joe Comuzzi?

Did Joe Comuzzi pull out of the Volpe campaign? I seem to remember him originally listed as a supporter.The Invisible Man 19:12, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

• He did not. Comuzzi is still a Volpe supporter, despite some early confusion on this front. CJCurrie 00:02, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

I believe that there should be a Citation as proof that someone has pulled their endorsement. Pete Peters 00:08, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Candidates' ability to speak French

Anyone know which Candidates can speak French and which can't?--Sima Yi 22:23, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

There was a Globe and Mail article about this a few weeks ago. It reviewed all the candidates and gave them grades on their billingualism. Let me see if I can find it. 72.139.185.19 18:48, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Be careful. If I recall correctly, the Globe had to make several corrections to the article after the fact; it may not be reliable. -Joshuapaquin 20:37, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

According to today's Question period (CTV politics show), Gerard Kennedy, and Scott Brison are borth very poor at French. I know Bob Rae, Michael Ignatieff, and Stephan Dion are all very proficient at the language, and am unsure about the others. I'm pretty sure Joe Volpe speaks very good French though. Anyone have any info on all of this? --Sima Yi 20:27, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Just a thought: the article relies on the G&M study much too much, in my opinion. By the way, I (half-seriously) can't believe Ken Dryden cannot speak French, considering he played in Montréal for years! :-) theProject 04:21, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Maurizio Bevilacqua quit

Maurizio Bevilacqua is out of the running and is backing Rae. Geedubber 13:38, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ashley MacIsaac

Whatever happened to his candidacy??--Sonjaaa 20:27, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

I know at some point he announced that he wasn't running, not that he was ever realistically going to. --Hamiltonian 23:49, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

He withdrew in June without ever actually having formally filed his nomination papers. I've readded a note in the timeline; as much as his campaign looked and felt like a publicity stunt, it got more than enough media attention to be worth at least mentioning in the article. Bearcat 07:27, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Caucus supporters and bilingual proficiency

I suggest removing this section (under the Analysis heading) and the table in it. It seems to be just repeating information found in other parts of the article. There's no point in having to update the same information twice all the time, not to mention the odd combination of two unrelated statistics. KeL 05:28, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Page protection and pov pushing

Both Sarah Ewart and CJCurrie have been involved in many edit wars at Michael Ignatieff where they delete edits which may reveal history about Ignatieff which is not currently palatable and they also promote edits which make him look like a god. It is HIGHLY improper for either of them to be protecting this article. Ottawaman 15:03, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

No, they haven't. They've been dealing with your repeated POV edits which border on vandalism. I'd say more, but that would just be feeding the trolls. Anyone doubtful need only look at your edit history. -- Gaius Octavius | Talk 16:20, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

No; I encourage editors to check themselves and you will see how involved Sarah was in August and CJCurrie continually in the Ignatieff article. It is wrong for them to be protecting this article; if it needs protection why do they not find an objective administrator to do it? Ottawaman 23:43, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm going to have to side with Ottawaman concerning the Ignatieff article; there's a clear case of whitewashing going on there that should be addressed. However, in THIS article (which is, you know, what this page is supposed to be about) there's obvious vandalism happening (e.g. "neocon American wannabe") which warrants the protection. Hiddekel 21:23, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deleted images

It would be good if someone could do something to replace the images of Bob Rae and Ken Dryden. Gehockteh leber 00:36, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mention betting websites? (Prediction Markets)

I think it would be a good idea if mention is given to any Prediction market that may be offering betting odds on each Liberal candidate, as another way to judge their expectation of winning. The only site I know of that is offering this is www.intrade.com, but the activity on that right now is too low for it to have any merit.

[edit] Trivia

I was wondering if there was any way to access any kind of "trivia" information about this, and other leadership races. It would be interesting to know, for example, the demographics of delegates elected. It would also be interesting to know who the youngest delegates elected were, particularly since I think it might be me :P. (I got elected when I was fourteen this time around by my riding association)

[edit] Newspaper Endorsements

Newspapers have begun to make endorsements. Added a chart to track them, as per general elections.

[edit] Are you a Montrealer? Or going to the convention otherwise?

If so, leave me a message ASAP on my talk page. I'm looking to get someone into the convention with a camera. You'll have the opportunity to photograph the candidates, hopefully one-on-one. (I think I can pull a few strings with some of the key players.) -- Zanimum 20:43, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Results Viewer

I feal that the screenshots of the Results viewer should be used for the results since it does serve to graphically illustrate the positions of the candidates. However, since they were removed I will not just go and re add them without discussion. Kc4 December 2, 2006

We can easily recreate these graphs under GFDL, without needing to rely on Fair Use. That's preferable. -Joshuapaquin 23:28, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Good point Kc4 00:40, 3 December 2006 (UTC)