Talk:List of Rookie Digimon (Part 1)

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[edit] Agumon adventure and agumon savers

I know these two have different designs, but are they really different species? It's like...is the Agumon who appears in Digimon World DS really more "Agumon (Savers)" than "Agumon (Adventure)"? --`/aksha 05:21, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

I wouldn't know, does the DS Agumon have the training bracers and the oval nostrils? Anyway, I kinda consider the two Agumon to be two separate but closely related species, like the white rhino and black rhino. They're almost the same but their JUST different enough to not be considered of the same breed. If you wanna merge 'em, though, I'm not gonna put up a fight. Indiawilliams 07:12, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

They're the same species, just like the new Savers like SnowAgumon and BlackAgumon that are in Digimon Savers: Another Mission are the same species as their old designs. This also isn't the first time Agumon's appearance has changed, just look at him in the first Digimon movie, others examples would be Falcomon, Shamanmon and IceDevimon whose original designs were much different than their anime designs. Nightmare SE 13:09, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

I just figured they have the same name. And in digimon, same name generally = same species. --`/aksha 13:53, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

You guys merge the two then, because I'm braindead as to how to make the formatting look good. Indiawilliams 16:45, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Done. Nightmare SE 17:03, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Should we stick a pic of the Savers Agumon somewhere in that section? Indiawilliams 17:58, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

I think we should maybe even a picture of the "BigAgumon" from Digimon the Movie as well. Also should Agumon X (and every X Digimon for that matter) have his own entry or should it be apart of Agumon? Nightmare SE 18:15, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

We don't need a picture of every variation of a digimon...because...we don't need it, and because as far as fair-use-rules go...we're not supposed to have more than one picture for the same purpose (so having more than one picture to illustrate the same thing is bad). maybe we should just use the most well-known picture of a digimon species?

with the X-Digimon, i think it's better to just mention it in the description (so something like "An X-Antibody version of Tokomon appears in the digimon movie Digital Monster X-Evolution" for tokomon). And treat the X version as being the same species as the normal version.

i don't really think we need a whole seperate section, description, picture and infobox for all the X variations. Many digimon have X variations that never really appear anywhere (the X-Antibody article has a full list). --`/aksha 10:01, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Koemon-Hookmon / BlackAgumon-DarkTyrannomon

• Koemon -> Hookmon -> Armormon -> Cannondramon

Slinging Monkey -> (Red-suit) Captain Hook -> Cyborg Centaur -> Cannon Brachiosaur?

They are just 4 digimon squeezed into the game's digivolution line.

(And Armormon cant digivolve to Cannondramon in TCG.) Kennethayes 18:36, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't see how their appearances are relevant, Patamon and Angemon look nothing alike, nor do Guilmon/WarGrowlmon and Gallantmon, Gotsumon and Monochromon, Gatomon and Angewomon, DoruGreymon and Alphamon, etc. Nightmare SE 18:56, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Patamon > Angemon is the anime line (+ v-pet), and Angemon > HolyAngemon > Seraphimon look alike.

Guilmon > Gallantmon is also anime (+ d-power), and they have the digital hazard from Rookie to Mega.

Gotsumon > Monochromon is still anime (+ v-pet). Icemon is a better Champion indeed.

Gatomon > Angewomon? still the anime (+ v-pet).

DoruGreymon's normal Mega is Dorugoramon. Alphamon is normally from Grademon. Alike then. Dorumon's 3 lines sometimes mixed up in the manga and v-pets too.

the most important is that this line is from NatureSpirits to DeepSavers to MetalEmpire; from monkey to mutant to cyborg dragon.

jazz. i dont know why i'm typing these. just let it be. Kennethayes 19:18, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

What I was trying to say with those examples is although they are undeniably official digivolutions they do not look alike, and I'm sure there are plenty of official digivolutions that have different families also, then again since several digimon have multiple families its hard to say. Nightmare SE 19:38, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

• BlackAgumon -> DarkTyrannomon

So all the boss (de-) digivolutions in the wonder swan games like Floramon -> Ninjamon should be shown then? Kennethayes 18:36, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

As long as its part of the storyline and not simply a possible digivolution (or de-digivolution) that the player can digivolve its Digimon into I don't see why not. Nightmare SE 18:56, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

there are a lot of storyline digivolutions in these years. i just think that you'll be the one saying Black Agumon already has a digivolution line and you find it hard to state DarkTyrannomon as his another champion form. so... please add (DS) after DarkTyrannomon.

the sunburst/moonlight official state that ophanimon is the JOGRES of holyangemon & angewomon, why dont you add it? Kennethayes 19:18, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

if lopmon can digivolve to turuiemon in sunburst/moonlight, can i add it back? feel so strange Kennethayes 19:22, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Good point, I guess I'm still used to the old format where the digivolutions are in the article.

I gotta be honest here, I have no idea what strikethrough means but to answer your questions I don't know no much about Sunburst/Moonlight to properly answer your first question, as for the second, it would need to happen as part of the storyline. Nightmare SE 19:38, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm not too sure what you're argueing about. If this is about whether or not to include digivolutions in the infobox, then the convention i would say to follow follow is:
1. All digivolutions that are actually shown in a digimon anime or manga should be included.
2. Digivolutions that happen in games which aren't determined by the player (i.e. storyline digivolutions) should be noted in the same way as the anime/manga digivolutions.
3. Digivolutions that happen in the TCG and other digimon games for player-controlled digimon (especially digivolutions that are up to decisions made by the player) shouldn't be included. The exception to this i guess would be if a digimon has only ever appeared in a game or TCG. Don't think we have many of them though. The v-pet games are an example of where the player can choose between possible digivolutions. Although some of the v-pets have fairly unambigious digivolution lines, and some don't. I really think we should be citing v-pet digivolutions only for digimon that don't already have digivolutiosn which are cannon to an anime/manga/etc. We should also make an effort to source these digivolutions. here is a good site that lists a lot of digivolution lines from v-pets.

Also to note, writing about digivolutions in the prose isn't the same thing as including them in the infobox. So we could have "x-mon appears in [some digimon game] and can digivolve into this and this and that depending on experience points" in the prose, but it doesn't mean we go and list all the possible digivolutions into the infobox.

Any digivolutions in the infobox should also be explained somewhere in the prose. So if you think it's sensible to include a digivolution from a game because it's a 'storyline digivolution', please explain it in the prose so other people know why it's listed in the infobox. I suppose you can think of it as being an alternative to having to source everything. --`/aksha 04:36, 25 March 2007 (UTC)