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[edit] Welcome

Hello Maelgwn,

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[edit] Waterfall Gully

Cheers for the copyedit, nice work! Cheers, - >>michaelg | talk 07:03, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Mt Arapiles

What a co-incidence, I just notice the Deanos page 20 mintues ago. My last edit was to take the Elevation figure straight from that page. The page is quite in-depth, although I think it goes into the rockclimbing side a bit too much. Route after route along with Ewbank grades isn't very encyclopedic IMHO. Ashmoo 00:56, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

I still think its better than what we have already and then it can be improved by people who know the area. Climbing is the biggest attraction to that area it seems but maybe the climbing areas are not really relevant. Actually just reread Deanos' user page and he should be home very soon and he can keep working on it ...

Maelgwn 01:04, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

User:Deanos is back now! As soon as he overcomes the euphoria of getting home, finishes his can of bundy, and ceases speaking about himself in the third person he will fix up the araps page! [hmm-hmm]. I left it in my user space because it was a bit of a work in progress- compiling the history from assorted sources. I even picked up a magazine with some more info while i was there. I took some photos as well, and while they aren't jaw-dropping, they will be better than nothing.

I also scribbled down the stuff on the info board, which will flesh out the article in the non-climbing areas. I agree that every area may not need a mention, the list was partly just for my own benefit there (another reason why i left it on my page). Having said that, i would be so bold as to claim that more than 95% of the people that visit Arapiles go there for the rock climbing. But this is an encyclopedia and not a guidebook, so we need to figure out what is encyclopedic and what is not. This was something i was wary about when re-writing and i think i just ended up writing in most stuff so it could be sifted out later.

So i'll just touch it up briefly and then put it at Mount Arapiles, how does that sound? It wont have the pictures yet though, so over the next week or so i will try to get around to putting them up. Cheers, —deanos^{}{ Ł }{} 12:46, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re: East End, Adelaide

There may well be duplication, but as I understand it, the East End is broader than just Rundle St (although it is undoubtedly centred upon it). I think there should be an article for it anyway, along with a corresponding one for the West End. I'm not sure exactly what I'd cover in either, however. Happy editing, --cj | talk 11:54, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Recent edit of Clarendon Weir article is incorrect

No need to be sorry! Thank you for correcting that. The sources I was working from weren't particularly clear. Happy editing, --cj | talk 02:26, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hazelwood Park

Good start on the article! Now it's on my radar... I'll finish the history section soon enough - G^t 14:14, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Cheers thanks for that, i haven't gone looking for some sources yet and you seem to have them just nearby --Maelgwn 14:19, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Outback

This article, along with rather fragmented 'The Bush' are some of the poorest articles that I have come across, and if you have ever done random page searching for cleanup, that's saying something! I would ask you, just for a moment to consider irony, if you can. It's up to you, this is wiki :) , and I will leave it be, but I would suggest the article is beyond redemption in its current state. I had written the sentence that preceded the insertion, and consider the addition sufficiently ironic or humorous, depending upon your outlook - but considering the majority of editors and users are male american and under 20 years, perhaps humour or irony escapes them anyway :) As John Clarke used to say, I'll get out of your way! SatuSuro 11:56, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Ok, i thought that the preceding sentence in entirely serious and adds a good point to the article. The way that I see the mention of the sign in Yalgoo would be in some explanation of humour or explanation of the abstractness of the concept. The other thing i didnt like was the style of the addition. I believe encylopdic articles are written so that each sentence adds something to the article itself. By writing in the second person and as a command, this sense was destroyed. Did that make sense? (btw I am under 20 but im Australia). After all that, i've decided it should be a wiktionary entry only. --Maelgwn 12:46, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Your reversion is fine, as I already say. For me the two articles, the bush and outback have appeared to have had difficult lives as articles, which in itself suggests that there are tensions and very differing styles of approaching these two terms. My fault for trying to insert poorly thought out ironic placement. I understand your point - the article looks ok. Maybe there is room somewhere else for the placement of the Yalgoo sign, and perhaps some reference to boundaries in the 'inner geography' of australia? I shall wait.... :) Thanks for your understanding on the issue! SatuSuro 14:09, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Scouting Barnstarn

Did you see this proposal? Scouting Barnstarn --evrik 19:49, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Scouting in South Australia

Thanks for making some corrections to that page. I am trying to all States and Territories but it is slow. For the NT, where I used to live, I found a lot of History, but for SA I could find nothing about the history. Can you add anything since you live in SA? --Bduke 05:51, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah will try and have a look at this article within the next few days, tho history could be a bit short. I am thinking we need a section page for that section, specifically related to Australia as well. What you think? ...maelgwntalk 11:39, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, it must be late, but I do not understand what you mean by a section here or "specifically related to Australia". The Scouts Australia page covers Australia. It has a template that points to State and Territory articles and this is the one for SA. What exactly are you suggesting? --Bduke 11:47, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Oops my bad, been at a Rover meeting and a little annoyed atm and so wasn't concentrating. On the Scouts Australia page it lists the different sections of scouting with links to an Australia specific Venturers page but a worldwide rovers page for example. I was thinking that for each section of scouting (joeys, cubs ...) we should have an Australia specific page. ...maelgwntalk 11:52, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Now I understand. I agree. We also need one on Australian Scout Jamboree and I have already flagged that on Wikipedia:WikiProject Scouting/Todo. I have done stuff on the international Rover page. I was a Rover leader many years ago. Maybe you could do the Australian Rovers page. --Bduke 12:12, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

I might see if I can do them both tommorrow or at the weekend. ...maelgwntalk 12:14, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Great. I look forward to reading them. I am taking a break from WP from Sunday to Thursday as I'm off to Sydney for a Workshop. I like your "House Rules" at the top of this page. Do you mind if I use them on my page with slight modification? --Bduke 09:56, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah sure, happy to be helpful ...maelgwntalk 10:01, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hazelwood Park Photos

I ask this only because my camera was recently stolen - would you be able to take photos for the article? I was going to get some of Linden Avenue, the Burnside Swimming Center, Hazelwood Park and the Zest Gym/Fasta Pasta Complex... Cheers! Nice work on the Burnside articles. :D michael ^talk 09:14, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

hehehe, I just went to take some of these, i'll get them up tonight. Burnside Swimming Centre is a bit hard cos you can't really take them inside when there are people there ... ...maelgwntalk 09:36, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Burnside Wikiproject

Feel free to edit it! Be bold! michael ^talk 10:03, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Hey Maelgwn! You've picked me up on a few grammatical mistakes. Cheers for that, and shame on me! Dally Horton 08:58, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

You're contributions are looking good, have a look at Wikiproject Adelaide and the guidelines there. Keep up the good work! ...maelgwntalk 10:55, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rovers

We have a new Wikipedian who is a Rover. He added to the international page and I suggested he made an Oz page. I tidied it earlier and you have just done more. Is "Rovers who are not quite ready to leave" a bit POV? Some crews might search out people just to advise. I do not know. I think I have completed all States and Territories plus one on Oz Jamborees since we last talked. --Bduke 09:55, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image Tagging Image:Portnoarlungamainstreet.jpg

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[edit] Meetup on 24th August 2006

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[edit] Australian merging

I am sure there is good reason - and I agree with it - but on the edit summary only? I thought there was the messages on the talk page thingy too...SatuSuro

On which article? ...maelgwntalk 00:45, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, not very jelpful - australian states by area and size and things... SatuSuro 01:22, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

All i did was verify the List of Australian states and territories by rank entry and changed the List of Australian states and territories by area to a redirect page. According to Wikipedia:Merging_and_moving_pages#Performing_the_merger thats all that needs to happen. Nobody had said anything on the talk page about it in close to 6 months. ...maelgwntalk 02:05, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category deletions

Sure--just use {{G6}}, give your reasoning in the edit summary (what you told me) and they should be deleted with no problem. Cheers, Fang Aili ^talk 14:34, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Images listed for deletion

Two images that you uploaded, Image:Thebluff.jpg and Image:Wilpenapoundaerial.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is, if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Iamunknown 04:04, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Treble Cone

Hi Maelgwn

I'm a little confused why you thought almost all the first paragragh on the Treble Cone page needed deleting. This paragraph contained information about the size of the ski area, percentage of difficult terrain, and general perception of the field. Just wondered why you thought the information was not worthy of wikipedia.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Willnjen (talk • contribs) 20:40, 6 March 2007 (UTC).

The content was clealy a copyright violation from http://www.treble-cone.com ...maelgwntalk 07:16, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Meetup on 23rd April 2007

Hi Maelgwn,

Apologies if you're already aware of this, but I'd like to let you know that the second Adelaide Meetup will take place on Monday 23rd of April at ZUMA Caffe, 56 Gouger Street, Adelaide. The meeting is at 7:30am for breakfast with Wikipedia founder Jimbo Wales. Please see Wikipedia:Meetup/Adelaide/Meetup 2 for more details and indicate if you might attend.

Thanks,–cj | talk 13:41, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Reversion of my edit

I'm writing in reference to your removal of my addition of Rosanna Cubs and my removal of Diamond Valley Cubs on the Scouting in Victoria item on Wikipedia.

The previous comment from User:Bduke was that removal of other's sites was unfriendly... I would rather you and he had both asked me first or at least had a look at the sites concerned. Both are my sites... I was the CSL at Diamond Valley and recently moved to start a new Pack - Rosanna. The site went with me. If you look at www.diamondvalleycubs.org, you'll see it's now just one page, with the Cub content referring to Rosanna Cubs.

The link to Diamond Valley Cubs was happily sitting there for a year or so. I'd like to think that I could replace it with the www.rosannacubs.org ( Rosanna Cub Scouts ) link.

Regards

Wayne Renfrew CSL Rosanna Cub Scouts akela@rosannacubs.org —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wrenfrew (talk • contribs) 13:43, 29 March 2007 (UTC).

In most cases there is no way you can expect people on wikipedia to check with peopel before edits are made to the material. I removed the link because it was fairly likely to be self promotion of a site, something which is not approved of on wikipedia. The following apply from Wikipedia:External_links#Links normally to be avoided:

1. Any site that does not provide a unique resource beyond what the article would contain if it became a Featured article. 3. Links mainly intended to promote a website.

Generally i have been deleting mob/pack/troop/unit/crew website links because they add little content to the page and only serve for self promotion. They are not encyclopedic content. Your link had been there a year but as far as im concerned it should have been deleted ages ago. I encourage you to work on improving all Australian scouting articles though ...maelgwntalk 06:28, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi, If User:Wrenfrew or him as an anon adds back the Rosanna Cub Scouts, Melbourne link, you might care to look at the discussion with him on User talk:Bduke#Rosanna Cubs link. --Bduke 00:59, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks bduke, noted ...maelgwntalk 07:32, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Adelaide University Union

A campus wider referendum will take place in April 2007 to seek the dismissal of the Union board.[1] This is an actual event that is scheduled to take place. Please do not delete it if all you are doing is disagreeing with the actions of the individuals who wish to see the referendum proposal carried. Be constructive and add to the article. Ozdaren 15:08, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

The removal was nothing to do with my student politics views (or lack of them) and i know there is a referendum. This amount of information on an event still in progress just looks like Wikipedia is being used to push political views. I doubt this event will be remembered for long or in a good article would deserve more than a sentence entry. I removed it because there are too many additions made to articles when events are still happening, totally disproportionate to the amount of information already written in the article. It definetely doesnt deserve it own section. And lastly, its not NPOV. ...maelgwntalk 05:46, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

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