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Contents 1 Welcome 2 BHINMAL 3 Jainism 4 The great Karnataka Expansion 5 Some thing more about yourself 6 stub related to jainism 7 Unexplained edits to Maratha articles 8 Jain portal 9 Hi 10 Jodhabai 11 Diwali in Jainism 12 Rajput 13 Image copyright problem with Image:Mathura ayagapatta3.jpg 14 Request for edit summary 15 Diwali edits: Nice job 16 Image copyright problem with Image:Rishabha_khajuraho.jpg 17 Image Tagging Image:Ghantaghareasts.jpg 18 Redirects 19 Your absence 20 Barnstar 21 Origin of some common Hindustani words 22 Rashtrakuta branchesDineshkannambadi 14:10, 15 September 2006 (UTC) 23 Removed Rashtrakuta branches69.118.43.252 02:25, 20 September 2006 (UTC) 24 Rashtrakuta branchesDineshkannambadi 00:10, 21 September 2006 (UTC) 25 Rashtrakuta pageDineshkannambadi 13:35, 21 September 2006 (UTC) 26 Thanks a lotDineshkannambadi 18:12, 22 September 2006 (UTC) 27 Reference booksDineshkannambadi 19:01, 22 September 2006 (UTC) 28 Rashtrakutas 29 Rashtrakuta 30 Questions about use of swastika 31 Image:Peacockthrone small.jpg 32 Rashtrakutas 33 'Indian Bourbons'

[edit] Welcome

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[edit] BHINMAL

Thanks for your comment on Bhinmal,SANJAYBAFNA 08:06, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jainism

I have removed the tag from the article and the reasoning behind submission of the article for deletion is completely baseless. So I think, other users wouldnt mind me removing the tag before the AfD process was over. If the user still continues to vandalise the page, I will ask for an adminstrator's help over the issue. Also pl sign yr comments by typing ~~~~ . Thanks for yr contributions to Wikipedia. Cheers --Deepak|वार्ता 03:35, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The great Karnataka Expansion

Are you Y. Malaiya, who put the "permission" comment at the top of the page? What does that mean? "permission" is a violation of the GFDL, which all Wikipedia articles must meet. Did you copy this material from somewhere else? User:Zoe|^(talk) 02:26, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

I am myself the original author of note that was earlier posted in another forum

What other forum, and what is their copyright policy? User:Zoe|^(talk) 04:49, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Please respond, or your article may have to be deleted as a copyright violation. User:Zoe|^(talk) 03:32, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Please specifically release the article under the GFDL license. User:Zoe|^(talk) 02:53, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Some thing more about yourself

Hi,

May be you want to put a link to your homepage, if you do not want to duplicate all the data.

Chirags 16:53, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] stub related to jainism

Malaiyaji,

I have requested to create a stub related to Jainism. and probably use http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/60/Jainism_logo.png as its logo. If you have access to any copyright free, smaller and cleaner logo, it can be used. as we expand it to more articles, is required to take an invetory of existing articles and tag them with {stub} if they need to be expanded. Chirags 18:05, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

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Thanks. I was thinking about getting a stub creating, but did not know the procedure.

Yes, we need a nice image. I had created the one you mention a few years ago by editing at the pixel level, thus it has somewhat jagged edges. Let us see if we can get a new one. --Malaiya 00:47, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Unexplained edits to Maratha articles

Dude please discuss the article before editing it in a drastic manner. What do you mean by that "they are currently devout Hindus?" Aslo Quote: just like the 96 clans of Marathas, there are 36 clans of the Rajputs, who mainly live in Rajasthan, Gujarat and nearby regions. There are some connections between the two groups. Among the Rajputs, the Rathores and the Solankis originated from the Rashtrakutas and Chalukyas from Latur

Well i'm a Maratha myself. And it has been established that Rathores and Rashtrakuts and Solankis and Chalukyas are entirely different. Yes all of them have contributed to Maratha gene pool but you've changed the article to your Kannada POV. Please refrain from POV edits in future and discuss them beforehand. अमेय आरयन AMbroodEY 15:58, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Jain portal

If you want to edit a portal subpage you have to refresh a portal page as well (do a small edition on a portal page, after your edition on a subpage). I reverted your change because we should use only existing categories (Like Category:Jains). CU! V1^t 02:40, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

Hi, just to say I liked your latest contribution to the Talk-Page of Maratha. Also, to suggest that you could improve your userpage by adding links to your contributions etc. Regards, ImpuMozhi 15:10, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Jodhabai

Hi, just noticed that you have put some of the text in the above article in the invisible mode. That can be perceived as vandalism and could get you blocked from editing Wikipedia. If you question the factual content in an article, please edit the article providing appropriate references or discuss the controversies on the article's talkpage. Please make the text visible if you have made it invisible in any other article. TIA, --Gurubrahma 06:54, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

If you search for Jodhabai on google, you will get more number of hits. You may have checked the genealogy, but, ther could be another Jodhabai? Given that Jodhabai is considered by many as Akbar's wife, you may mention a rider in the article that it could be factually inaccurate and mention your sources. You can also discuss this at length in the article's talkpage. Else, people will keep reverting your changes as Jodhabai, in popular portrayal, remains Akbar's wife. --Gurubrahma 07:26, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Diwali in Jainism

Hi Malaiya, Diwali is the current WP:INCOTW and the Jainism section of the article needs improving. Knowing that it is a very significant day in Jainism, perhaps you would want to expand and write the section better because I am hoping to FA this soon. Thanks DaGizza^{Chat ©} 12:17, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rajput

Malaiya, Long time no edit on rajput. If you have time can you expand vansha and cula? Shivraj Singh 18:49, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Mathura ayagapatta3.jpg

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[edit] Request for edit summary

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[edit] Diwali edits: Nice job

Keep it up! --Nemonoman 00:48, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Rishabha_khajuraho.jpg

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[edit] Image Tagging Image:Ghantaghareasts.jpg

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[edit] Redirects

Malaiya avare, I have created the Rajputs and Indian secularism page and redirected two of your articles, Rajputs and Buddhism and Rajputs and Zoroastrianism to that page. I hope you approve of this merging and structuring. Let me take this opportunity to tell you how much I admire and appreciate your work on the Origin of Rajputs page. Regards, ImpuMozhi 05:22, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your absence

Malaiyaji, I have grown to greatly admire your contributions to Wikipedia and am disappointed to note that you have not made any edits for several weeks now. Hope all is well with you, and that you are not intent upon quitting WP for good. Please drop me a line as soon as you read this, and be assured that you are missed. Your return is eagerly awaited. Regards, ImpuMozhi 02:46, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your note. I hope to contribute time to time. I had been busy with other things.--Malaiya 21:18, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

Please do continue on WP! Your presence is very valuable. I have long admired your well-referenced and researched contributions. I take this occasion to present you with a Barnstar. I am sure it will prove to be only the first of many. Please accept it and keep up the good work on Wikipedia. Best regards, ImpuMozhi 02:48, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Origin of some common Hindustani words

Namaste Doctor Saheb. The cogent article you have created (Origin of some common Hindustani words) needs a notice on the article's talk page that copyright authorization had been granted by Yashwant Malaiya This is the reference given by you in the Origin of some common Hindustani words article: "The derivations below are based on posts by Yashwant Malaiya, and are given here by his consent." I know you are probably Dr. Yashwant Malaiya, but some individuals want to have solid proof of this. Thank you very much for your understanding sir. Dhanyavaad. Jdas07 21:28, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rashtrakuta branchesDineshkannambadi 14:10, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Please provide your source for this information. I like the content, I just dont see the reference information. Also if possible, please provide full dates for kings not bits and pieces. Any info that is not accompanied with source and defended is not considered valid. That was the reason I removed your branch info earlier during my clean up.

Dinesh Kannambadi

[edit] Removed Rashtrakuta branches69.118.43.252 02:25, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Dear Sir, I waited for a few days after my previous posting on your user page asking for reference to your "Rashtrakuta branches" section of the page Rashtrakuta. Since I did not get any reply from you, I have gone ahead and deleted it. Please present your reference for this section before posting it again.

Dinesh Kannambadi

[edit] Rashtrakuta branchesDineshkannambadi 00:10, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for your response and the links you provided. I went thru the matter and got the feeling that apart from "Lata" who are a known branch (later merged into Mayakheta by Amoghavarsha I) these other branches may actually be their descendents. The fact that the Paramaras were of the same Kula as the Rashtrakuta or considered themselves the same Kula does not make them a branch. The Chalukyas of Badami were of same Kula and Gotra as the Kadambas, and hence their descendents, not their branch. Perhaps we should create a seperate main page Template:Main page:Descendents of Rashtrakutas and put all this info there and make a reference to this in one of the sections, the way I have made a main page for "Origin of Rashtrakuta empire" and referenced it in Origin section. You could also try to fill in the dates and make it complete rather than give half sure dates with question marks.

Dinesh Kannambadi

[edit] Rashtrakuta pageDineshkannambadi 13:35, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi. Sorry for being so picky about this page. The page has been thru a lot of conflict lately and I am trying to make sure no one can find a reason to tag it. I just wanted you to know that this is the info given by a wiki administrator when discussing a different issue. "Using a Wikipedia article as a reference is circular reasoning and is considered invalid - you cannot cite yourself! " The references you have quoted for Rashtrakuta familes/branches/descendents, are these books you have personaly referenced to or do you have a reference source that refers to these authors and claims? It may not appropriate to use reference info from one page and stick it into another. All the info I have entered are present in the 3 books I own and have referenced. The 3 books are listed in the ref. section. I just want you to re-verify this section on Rashtrakuta descendents/families so as to avoid an edit war at some time in the future when I may not be able to explain the situation well. The Rashtrakuta branch info is ok as it it in my reference book. Sorry for the inconvinience Dinesh Kannambadi

[edit] Thanks a lotDineshkannambadi 18:12, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your confirmation. Can you possibly find the dates associated with these "Rashtrakuta Families" and put them into the page for completeness. The names of many kings there have no dates associated and that makes it look incomplete and may rise unnecessary Questions. Thanks Dinesh Kannambadi

[edit] Reference booksDineshkannambadi 19:01, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Please add your reference book(s) to the reference section in the main page for Rashtrakuta. This is important material for the public to see. It may even help some of us understand history better.

Dinesh Kannambadi

[edit] Rashtrakutas

Hi. Someone has started a section on Rashtrakuta descendends in the page "Rashtrakuta". While it makes no sense to discuss about descendents (considering that descendents of various kingdoms are today spread over the whole of India), Please see if you can add a paragraph citing sources like the Rajputs, Rathores etc. Thanks, Dineshkannambadi

[edit] Rashtrakuta

I remember you were interested in developing this article in which I was deeply involved. The article is now under a revert war again with a user (who is now banned for sock puppetry) trying to make Anon edits. He wants to prove the Rashtrakutas were Marathis (speakers of Marathi language) while all the authors I have read from claim the Rashtrakuta Kings patronised Kannada and Sanskrit languages (all their inscriptions and literature are in these languages, per my sources). Please see if you have time to get involved and bring in any valuable information you can.Thanks.Dineshkannambadi 01:32, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Origin of Rashtrakutas-->I have removed the section Rashtrakutas and Marathi which was put in by a banned user Vishu123 (banned for sock puppetry and distrubtive activities) who had been adviced by admins not to use Marathi sources.thanks.Dineshkannambadi 00:17, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Questions about use of swastika

Please see discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Hinduism#Same problem with the swastika on Jainism articles. Thank you, IZAK 09:49, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Peacockthrone small.jpg

Hi. In Feb. 2006, you raised some concerns about Image:Peacockthrone small.jpg on my talk page. After some investigation, I have now placed the image on Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images. Any further comments should be placed there or on the image's talk page. Thanks. RedWolf 18:56, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rashtrakutas

Hi. I recently received a book on above topic written by Pandit Bishweshwar Ringu Reu which not only details the Rashtrakutas of Manyakheta but also discusses in fair detail the migration of the early Rashtrakutas from Northern India, their different descendents in Rajasthan, Madhyapradesh, Maharashtra and Karnataka. Also well described is their religion etc with plenty of inscriptions. I will be creating a comprahensive article on the Rashtrakutas of Manyakheta, while also creating subarticles for the various descendents described in the book. Each subarticle for descendents will have its own template with the list of kings, the years they ruled and other details. This is a well accepted wiki format which I will be following. The books I shall be referenceing are written by Pandit Bishweshwar, Romila Thapar, Suryanath Kamath, Nilakanata Sastri etc. I will be travelling to Kuknur in Central Karnataka (Koppal district) to photograph their Navalinga temples to add to the article. This will take a few months as I am also busy with other articles but I intend to develop this into a FA finally. Thanks.Dineshkannambadi 16:06, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi, as you are aware, I have been making many inputs to the Rashtrakuta page with the intent of taking it to FA status. With this intent there are some issues I want to discuss with you.

• At the bottom of the LEAD section, I have mentioned the names of many branches/ descendents of this empire and I can verify all of them with my books except the branch from Mayuragiri in Maharashrta (Rashtraudha dynasty). This info was brought in by a user who was later banned for sochpuppetry (I think). Can you please find some info for this kingdom, create a reasonable stub page for it. I will be creating stubs for all other branches/descendents per wiki FA format and will move in your "King lists" into these stubs along with some more info. It is not acceptable to wiki FA reviewers to have lists on the main page. I have learnt this from the 4 featured articles I have successfully authored. So please dont be annoyed when the lists are removed and moved into respective pages.

• A few of the citations in the listed branches/descendents section dont seem to be from English language books and a few others may not have the page number, publisher info etc. None of these citations are from me (citation #77-83). Non-English books are not recommended when English books are plenty and available. Fortunately, I can provide full citations to replace most of the existing citations from my English language books, so this is no problem. In case I cant find a citation or two, I may ask for your assistance.

However, if I am wrong and all books are in English, please add the complete book info in the reference section the way I have done. If you are busy, I will take care of it anyway.

• You mention in the "branch list" the Rashtrakutas of Kannauj. In the middle of this list you also mention,(Lost Shravasti to Gahadavalas in 1128). So are the Gahadavalas different from the rulers of Kannauj?. I have read entirely about the early history of Rashtrakutas (6-8th century) and imperial history from Manyakheta (8-10th century). I will start on the Gahadavala chapter soon and also on other descendents/branches. Just needed this clarification about the rulers of Kannauj.

Thanks.Dineshkannambadi 22:38, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

I have also temporarily removed the subarticle include for The great Karnataka Expansion which I shall reinsert after providng all the citations. It should be perhaps be renamed. The word great somehow seems extravagent.(I am from Karnataka)Dineshkannambadi 01:34, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok. so we will maintain the same name.(The great Karnataka Expansion). I will be expanding on this, making it a DYK if possible and providing full citations. I have several books at home to source from.thanks.Dineshkannambadi 01:16, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 'Indian Bourbons'

I just did give something of an explanation on the Indian Bourbon talkpage. But I will give a succinct reason here. Which is, Henry IV of France had no nephews. His only (legitimate) sibling was his sister, Catherine of Navarre, Duchess of Lorraine, who produced no children. Meaning that the claim is, quite simply, wrong. Michael Sanders 00:31, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Re the sources you placed on my talkpage (disregarding the untrustworthy nature of online sources):

1) says "The family descended from Jean Philippe Bourbon, a collateral of King Henry IV of France, and the son of the Constable of Bourbon who was supposedly killed at the siege of Rome in l527 by Benvenuto Cellini (amazing?)." - a 'collateral of King Henry IV of France'? More to the point, Charles III, Duke of Bourbon (Constable de Bourbon) had no legitimate children. That's why he launched his rebellion against Francis I - if he'd had legitimate offspring, they'd have inherited his wife's estates. 2) Offers no sort of proof. I could spin out the same sort of thing in half an hour to claim I was descended from a union between the Louis XVII and a grand piano. 3) "Cette famille descendrait soit 1) de Jean-Philippe de BOURBON-BUSSET (disparu en mer vers 1580), soit 2) d'un fils du Connétable de BOURBON qui, ayant dû s'exiler à la suite d'un duel, fut pris en mer par des pirates puis débarqué en Egypte d'ou il passa en Inde, soit 3) d'un autre fils du Connétable et d'Alaique, Princesse Mongole qui aurait échoué dans la conspiration d'Amboise et serait parti pour l'Inde. L'hypothèse la plus vraisemblable est la deuxième" - no evidence of any of these suggestions, makes it clear it is entirely unsure who the father might be (1 is an illegitimate Bourbon line, 2 is Constable de Bourbon again, 3) ... Constable de Bourbon. again. Involving various implausible tales involving kidnappings, pirates, and Mongolian Princesses, all of which is more appropriate to the Thousand and One Nights than sober history. It also seems to be claiming Charles of Montpensier didn't die in 1527, which is just plain wrong). 4) "But I did turn up a Jean Philippe de Bourbon, said to be a "naturalny" son, i.e., legitimate?, of Charles de Bourbon-Montpensier, later Charles III, duc de Bourbon (and of the mysterious Mongolian princess, Alaique, and this Jean Philippe evidently had a connection with Bophal and India" - 'natural son' means illegitimate. And how exactly would Charles of Montpensier ever have met a Mongolian Princess? And of course, the writer comments at the end - "I suppose he might, after all, have been a mere adventurer." - which is the general explanation when someone claims descent from a mythical union between a famous French troublemaker a Mongolian Princess. Michael Sanders 01:07, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

"The family was known before the book by Prince Michael of Greece" - presumably, anyone who claims descent from royalty is known, at least in some circles. Look at Pierre Plantard. Michael Sanders 01:09, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the info, would comment on it when I myself do some more research on the topic. STTW (talk) 20:05, 12 March 2007 (UTC)