Talk:Mascot
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01 MItalic textar 2005: removed reference to the Chief Illiniwek as the "mascot" of the University of Illinois. Such designation is probably inaccurate and is definitely contrary to university policy (under to which the Chief is explicitly defined as a symbol rather than a mascot). See the entry on Chief Illiniwek for further detail. If the Chief is to be reintroduced here, it must be within the context of a more nuanced discussion of what does and does not constitute a mascot. (wschrive)
- Just because the University of Illinois doesn't call him as mascot doesn't mean that he is not as mascot. Chief Illiniwek seems to clearly qualify as a mascot.--RLent 20:40, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
I'd like to split this page into one a list of mascots and a main mascot article (definition). If there's no objections before I check back sometime I'll do so. --zandperl 01:40, 27 Dec 2003 (UTC)
[edit] More racist allegations
The Atlanta Braves (cf. the "tomahawk chop") , the Washington Redskins, and the Kansas City Chiefs have also been mired in controversy. However this isn't always a mascot issue. The Fighting Whites were established to satirize stereotypical team names.
[edit] Nicknames different from mascots?
It seems to me that a mascot refers to a physical thing, and not the name a team uses. Obviously the two sometimes overlap, but they usually don't. For example, Ohio State University is the Buckeyes, but their mascot is Brutus the Buckeye. The University of Georgia is the Bulldogs, but their mascot is Uga the bulldog. This becomes especially apparent in the mentioned case of Stanford: as Stanford intendes it, cardinal is a color, and therefore can't be a mascot. Further, Webster defines mascots as "a person, animal, or object adopted by a group as a symbolic figure..."
So basically I'm suggesting that we mention the differentiation and that we specifically remove the line describing cardinal as Stanford's mascot. --Sarnacke 07:11, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
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- I agree, there's a bit of blending of nicknames, logos, symbols, and animals. For example there is a mascot for the U.S. Marine Corps Recruit Depot Parris Island, which is actually a bulldog puppy. British regiments have long had mascots as real animals, as have smaller units. Sometimes they're for ceremonial purposes, sometimes totemic. This is quite distinct from a nickname or symbol. Hakluyt bean 19:14, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
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- I agree too, but don't know enough about American sport to do it myself. I have recast this article a bit in any case, because it was competely dominated by American sports, which are a very specialized kind of mascot. Ming the Merciless 16:30, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
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