Talk:Midshipman
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I seriously disagree with the appending of the table of British commissioned officer ranks to every article discussing military officer ranks. This seems to be entirely unnecessary duplication that could be better served by maintaining the table in a central location (perhaps Commissioned officer?) and inserting links in these articles. Ray Trygstad 23:31, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Naval ROTC also has Midshipman Captains. I'd make the edit, but the graphics needs to be updated as well.
I'm really curious to know what NROTC Unit has a Midshipman Captain. The Brigade Commander at the Naval Academy commands 4000 midshpmen; I'm certainly not aware of any brigade-sized NROTC units. This is just another example of unnecessary rank inflation that makes ranks mean less. If someone can document this, I'll be glad to change the graphic. And I still think the British Officer ranks belong in one central location. If I change this am I going to get into a pissing contest with someone? Ray Trygstad 21:11, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
Every NROTC Unit has a MIDN Captain, no matter how large the unit is.
That's not true; several units have MIDN Commanders as Battalion Commander. But I see some now do have MIDN Captains so I will change the graphic to reflect this. Ray Trygstad 06:52, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
Some NROTC units have MIDN Captains. I can tell you mine does.
The whole American section needs to be expanded upon with lay terminology, I couldn't follow it at all.
- Indeed, i couldnt follow the whole discussion in the american section regarding the Midshipman Ensign to Captain - a brief discription of what they are/what they do might be in order here. I might be a little too accustomed to having just the one rank of midshipman with several year-grades, but (i hope?) i'm not the only one to not understand. 58.7.171.182 05:22, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
The Marine Corps is under-represented.
I am not entirely sure of the accuracy of the statement that OC is an appropriate "rank" in the Royal Navy. The way this document is worded implies that OC has seniority over ratings which they do not, and also implies that they hold it as a substantive rank which they do not. Officer cadets in the Royal Navy are appointed as either Midshipmen S/Lt or occasionally Lt, but are reffered to as OC until they have completed IST. They are paid pro-rata according to their rank seniority ie S/Lt 1 yr. Also When an OC leaves BRNC to attend courses on other bases (notable exception of IST) they tend to hold the rank they are appointed with its priveledges.
[edit] stuff lacking
this article is pretty useless for anyone not already familiar with the military. what people become midshipman? what do they do? when was the rank first established and why? what do non-English speaking nations have instead? -- Akb4 08:11, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
