Talk:Music recording sales certification

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Hmmmm. The RIAA certification page is a great idea, but it wasn't a replacement for this one. Other countries have gold albums too! I'm finding out exactly what the standards are for gold in Australia. Andrewa 12:40, 31 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Doesn't Platinum indicate 1 million, and Gold 500,000 across the world? And why is this page located at Gold album and not Platinum album. I tried to fix this by moving the page to RIAA certification, which is a good page, but too US-centric. Maybe record rankings or something like that? Lypheklub 17:46, Aug 31, 2003 (UTC)

Hmmmm. I'm inclined to leave Gold album as a head word (that's what it's called in a dictionary, not sure what the technical name is in an encyclopedia). It's the natural place people will look if they want information about awards. Many people who don't even know that the RIAA even exists use the term "Gold album" in everyday speech, never bothering to think about the infrastructure that must be behind it. A redirect is IMO a little off-putting under those circumstances, we are essentially telling the reader "Daddy knows best" which isn't very welcoming. They know what question they have asked. I'd like to answer them as affirmingly as possible.

I'm checking my facts on the meaning of "Gold album" etc, but no, I don't think it does mean that at all. Certainly it wasn't the case a few years ago. That's why I wrote what I did in the original article. Watch this space. Andrewa 20:56, 31 Aug 2003 (UTC)

I have to say that I don't like the naming of this page as "Music recording sales certification" if it is the only page on wikipedia with information about gold & platinum albums and singles. If I'm reading a musician's bio, with a line like, "His last album went Platinum within a month of being released", and I click on the "Platinum" link and am taken to a page called "Music recording sales certification", then I would be very confused. To help fix this problem, I created the following pages: Gold (music sales) and Platinum (music sales), both of which give a short summary and then refer the user back to this page for additional information. SweetP112 15:45, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Even if we don't redirect Gold album to RIAA certification, i think it is all right to say platinum is 1 mil. and gold is 500k. That's rudimentary information all over the world. -- Lypheklub 20:59, Aug 31, 2003 (UTC)

What is the source of your information? In Australia, Gold is 35,000 acording to the certification body ARIA, see http://www.aria.com.au/accredindex.htm for my source. You may not agree with these standards, but that's irrelevant. Andrewa 00:09, 1 Sep 2003 (UTC)

I also have a qualm about the heading of this page being "gold album" when pages such as "platinum album" redirect here. I agree that naming it something obscure after RIAA is inappropriate (esp since I'm another Aussie). As Andrewa said, telling the reader "Daddy knows best" ... isn't very welcoming, and this is not disimilar to how I feel about being redirected here when I was trying to find a "platinum album" article to link to for a few pages. What about something simple like "album awards"? --Qirex 12:24, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 Early "Gold Album" Standard 2 IFPI Platinum Europe certification 3 Merge 4 Currently, Platinum resolves to Gold, but Diamond to itself. 5 Uranium record 6 Balkan 7 Digital Downloads 8 Recipients? 9 Mexico's info might be wrong 10 chart not properly aligned

[edit] Early "Gold Album" Standard

The first RIAA gold album standard was for $1,000,000 worth of albums sold. I would imagine that this is the first standard set in 1958. At the time, most record sales were 45 RPM singles, which were often under fifty cents; 33 RPM albums were often $3.00 - $5.00 and generally sold well only if an artist and several songs on the album became fairly popular.

Rlquall 13:16, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] IFPI Platinum Europe certification

I added the IFPI Platinum Europe certification as a separate subject, as I didn't feel it really belonged in the table with the national certification limits. Ordinary Person 02:05, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge

Single certification should be merged with this article, or this one with it. Does anyone have any preference? This is much more useful, as it offers more detailed information in place of a list of certified albums (something that should be in a separate article). --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 21:57, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

No, gold album is about albums. If you want to merge it, merge it with RIAA Certification (which is about album certifications) OmegaWikipedia 22:48, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

True enough, I wan't thinking clearly enough. Yes, RIAA certification would be more appropriate. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 08:00, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Currently, Platinum resolves to Gold, but Diamond to itself.

Seems each should either resolve to itself, or each should resolve to an article that prominently features the others. -:)Ozzyslovechild 01:20, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. I propose merging Diamond album, which is much shorter, into Gold album, or moving them all into something like Album certification. Also, I propose removing the RIAA certification merge tag from this article, letting RIAA certification discuss album certification in the USA specifically, and having Gold album or Album certification be worldwide in scope. --Lph 18:09, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

I totally agree and Gold, Diamond and Platinum must all be in one page.Vivek 11:03, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

How about Music recording sales certification? This list contains music videos, albums and singles. All the others would redirect there. --Canley 12:25, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm going to be bold and move the article. --Canley 12:38, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

And I'll be bold and remove the merge tag to RIAA certification. --Lph 18:28, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Uranium record

There is a precedent not mentioned here it seems. the Spanish singer Rafael Martos Sánchez (Raphael) received a Uranium record from HISPAVOX for the selling of 50.000.000 copies of a compilation of his hits. This entry on the Spanish Wiki http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disco_de_Uranio explains that in Spain 40.000 is for a gold record, 170,000 for a platinum (different from the table in this article) and that Raphael's uranium record equals 1.250 Gold rcords or 300 Platinum records. Worth researching.

[edit] Balkan

does anyone know if certifications exist in the balkan region, for bosnia croatia serbia slovenia, i know that edo maajka made gold albums because you can see it in one of his singles. So if anyone knows please help

[edit] Digital Downloads

The RIAA certifies legal downloads as well. I have added the criteria for gold and platinom certification. It would be great if someone can update the same for other countries as well Will231982 16:13, 6 August 2006 (UTC)will231982

[edit] Recipients?

Who receives the awards? Everyone who worked on the album? Just the artist? The Jade Knight 04:16, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mexico's info might be wrong

As I was reading through some news, according to Marci Stefan, spokeswoman for Warner Music Latina, Platinum in Mexico is awarded for 100,000 records sales. Here's the link, though it is in Spanish, it might serve as a reference. http://www.azcentral.com/lavoz/ent/articles/1207platino-CR.html

[edit] chart not properly aligned

the Country/Certifier column is not properly aligned with the Classification column for some countries, like canada for example, which leads to confusion, perhaps every country row should be separated with a line, or at least someone should align the countries properly so no country name starts between two classification types (ie album, single, etc)

edit:never mind someone did it as I was typing the text above —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.36.152.123 (talk) 00:10, 22 December 2006 (UTC).