Talk:National Association of Manufacturers

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After the first paragraph the article comes straight from NAM's website; http://www.nam.org/s_nam/sec.asp?CID=4&DID=2 http://www.nam.org/s_nam/sec.asp?CID=201846&DID=230841

• 05/14/06 - In an effort to provide a more balanced view, I added 2 linkys to pages which reference NAM's involvement with some political causes that are somewhat opposed to the presentation of a simple beneficial commercial lobbying organization.

-http://coat.ncf.ca/our_magazine/links/53/nam.html for a pro-Union stance on NAM and it's involvement in some less than tasteful activities. -http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/timeline.html is from a partisan page designed to present the Bush family as a long standing Crime Family involved in such activities as support for Nazi Germany, eugenics, and war profiteering. I take no stand on the viewpoints but the history seems to be factually well documented, at least in other sources I used to fact-check the linked reference. Removing Jeb Bush's comment would obviate the need for such additional commentary but lessen the scope of the entry and, I believe, the underlying philosophical idea behind Wikipedia which is to provide access to more information, not less. I also recommend the viewpoint warning continue to remain in place. I would also appreciate any reedit in the wording of my linkys, I just can't seem to think of a way to express what I want to convey about their partisan appearance in the link referals.

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on 7/10/05, I removed this text from the differing views section, due to factual inaccuracy:

These connections between NAM and the JBS cast some shadow on the commentary of Florida Governor Jeb Bush due to the long standing history of Bush family's NAM involvement dating from the time of Samuel Prescott Bush, NAM's first president & great-grandfather to the 43rd President of the United States - George Walker Bush & his Florida Governor sibling.

I called the George Bush Library in College Station, Texas, and found out that NAM's first President was NOT the great grandfather of the 43rd President. In fact, According to an obituary in the Greenwich Times from Tuesday, February 24, 1948, Prescott Bush was a member of the NAM's Executive Committee and was a president of the Ohio Tax League and a former President of the Ohio Manufacturers Association, but not invovled in a major capacity with the NAM.

Due to this inaccuracy, I highly suggest someone research this data further as other parts may be inaccurate too.

• both the original entry and the addition of conspiracy-theory links fall well short of NPOV. NAM is a significant organization and deserves a serious entry, rather than PR flackery and paranoid bufoonery. In any case, the pro-NAM statements and the alleged links to fascism are so far apart in relevance to one another that no purpose is served. It is true that all manner of NAM executives were connected with all manner of conservative causes, but there is nothing remarkable or unique about that. The entry for Ford Motor Company, for instance, gets along just fine without mentioning Henry Ford's antisemitism and general fascist-flavored lunacies. THat is more properly dealt with in the entry for Henry Ford. The Du Pont Company article also maintains NPOV and does not deal with the political extremism of the various executives during the first part of the 20th Century. A full rewrite is probably necessary.Richardjames444 04:35, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

I fail to see how two glowing, paragraph-length quotations with no context are remotely encyclopedic.