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Contents 1 Not necessary to say "the Nickelodeon TV channel" 2 Crabgrass 3 School 4 ---- 5 Coconut Head 6 I MUST KNOW WHEN THIS IS! 7 What about the weasel? 8 Survival guide 9 Timmy Toot-Toot 10 List of Tips 11 Controversy? 12 Request for references 13 Request for cleanup 14 Vanessa 15 In some episodes, Ned isn't the only one breaking down the fourth wall... 16 Major Clean-Up 17 Mo Collins 18 Starring Characters 19 Where? 20 hiatus? 21 Confusing sentence 22 Susie 23 Character's Resemblence to Other Characters in the show 24 Girlfriend or not?

[edit] Not necessary to say "the Nickelodeon TV channel"

revert "on Nickelodeon" -> "on the Nickelodeon TV channel". You can't expect people to just know what "Nickelodeon" means

Uh, dude, I'm pretty sure most folks know what Nick is. Plus, it links to Nick at the top of the article. It's fine the way it is. Also, the word "network" is in the first sentence.Mike Hackney 06:11, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I have no idea what Nickelodeon (TV Channel) is, except what I learned on Wikipedia. Perhaps you live in a place where the Nickelodeon TV channel is broadcast, but I do not. Articles should be written in a way that makes sense to people who do not share your cultural biases, and that requires mentioning that Nickelodeon is a TV channel. —AlanBarrett 18:38, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)

That's fine, and I apologize. Nickelodeon is so worldwide, I would never have thought there were places where it isn't broadcast. So, I'll find a way to say it's a TV channel.Mike Hackney 19:59, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll wait to see how you do it. —AlanBarrett 21:41, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Crabgrass

As of season two, haven't Moze and Suzie been way nicer to each other?

• Yeah, someone's got to change that. They're friends in season 2, but they're still just as competitive, as we see in the episode about school clubs. Dtm142 23:20, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] School

The jump-shark thing wasn't at school - that's a first!

Y'think they're trying to tell us something? see:Jumping the Shark Pacific Coast Highway|^{Leave a message ($.25)} 20:50, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

^Noooooooooo!

The School Carwash episode wasn't at the school either.Dtm142 01:51, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ----

Mr. Monroe (played by Jim J. Bullock) is Ned and Cookie's life science teacher. He's full of life and talks effeminately, although no rumors about his character's sexuality have popped up yet (Bullock, however, is openly gay in real life). He treats his students rather harshly, and many consider him "insane." He is also the boys' basketball coach. The character's name is a reference to the character Bullock played on the 80s sitcom Too Close for Comfort, named Monroe Ficus.

WHAT! He's usually a very good teacher! I've seen every episode of season one...

[edit] Coconut Head

Coconut Head (played by Rob Pinkston) is a nice kid with a (very) bad haircut, which Ned describes as a 'last-minute Mom-job'. His real name seems to be Coconut Head.

Whoever wrote this obviously never saw "Guide to: Nicknames;" in which Coconut Head asks Moze to stop calling him Coconut Head.

[edit] I MUST KNOW WHEN THIS IS!

He, along with Lindsay Shaw (Moze) and Daniel Curtis Lee (Cookie), will host a show before this years Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards, giving tips on how to prepare to win an Blimp (the show's version of an Acadamy Award).

I'm throwing a KCA party and I don't know when it should start because I don't know when this thing is on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! --Wack'd About Wiki 20:26, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm sure it will let you know ahead of time on Nickelodeon, but you want to know now just look on the Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards wiki/talk page and it should say what time it is soon. And cut down on the exclaimation points, please, it makes your question look like vandalism. Unforgotten 21:49, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What about the weasel?

Shouldn't the weasel be included in the list of characters?

Haha, it is mentioned more than most characters. Maybe... Unforgotten 21:50, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Survival guide

What are all of the guide's tips for each episode? Most of these tips could be very helpful for me at school.

[edit] Timmy Toot-Toot

Do you think Timmy Toot-Toot should be added to the character list since he has appeared in two episodes? Tazz765 00:35, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of Tips

Could someone compile a list of all the lessons and save them in a differant article? Cnriaczoy42 14:39, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Controversy?

Should the small trivia section be renamed since it's saying the show is racist? Are the statement there even true? Thefreakshow 22:43, 27 June 2006 (UTC) i need tips

Why can't Controversy have its own section? There also another thing going around about that show. I heard some parents are mad at one of the new episode called "Social Studies", they said an chadacter named Evelyn or whatever her name is was saying "Damnit" "Damnit" during one of scenes where Evelyn was throwing food at Cookie. --Sassychick1898 17:55, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

• Could someone please explain to me how the show is racist?

Its not racist toward anyone, there aren't even any sources to back up those statments. I'll remove them, its obviously vandalism. Unforgotten 21:51, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Request for references

I recently tagged this article with a request for references. I note that the external links sections was renamed sources soon afterwards. What is needed to bring it up to wikipedia's standards are inline citations (see WP:CITE).--Opark 77 02:22, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request for cleanup

Following a request for help cleaning up this article at the wikiproject television page I have tagged it for cleanup. I think the article has one significant cleanup issue that could be addressed first - it consists largely of lists. The list of characters is extremely long and perhaps a separate character list should be created. It is customary to only discuss the starring characters of a television show on it's main page and this should be done in prose format. Please check out the wikiproject television guidelines for articles on TV programs for more help in cleaning up the article.--Opark 77 01:34, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

I concur -- the lists are the Achilles Heel of this article; if it were just the first couple of sections it would be an acceptable stub. The character descriptions fall into blow-by-blow scene recounts and other unencyclopedic sidetracks (like Bullock's sexuality, say what?). Almost every one of them could be cut in half, and the minor characters should barely require a full sentence. A small part of the character descriptions for the primary charcters could be merged with the Premise section. --Dhartung | Talk 03:24, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vanessa

I don't think that this profile is very clear.It could definitely use some rewriting in my opinion.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.142.130.34 (talk • contribs).

I tried to clean up the profile, but I still couldn't find out who Vanessa is played by.

[edit] In some episodes, Ned isn't the only one breaking down the fourth wall...

But there are some who actually broke the fourth wall either once, twice or thrice. In the "First Day and Locker" episode, a girl with glasses and punk-rock attitude looked directely at the camera, then a snack-eating boy--after seeing a weasel--also looked at the camera, but then saying "Whoa." Then Van Earl Wright and Willie Gault also broke the fourth wall in hosting an event that Cookie makes his way to gym class. (Van and Willie broke the fourth wall again in the "Sick Days and Spelling Bee", "Notes and Best Friends" and "Your Body and Procrastination" episodes.)

Gordy broke the fourth wall in the season one finale ("Emergency Drills and Late Bus") telling the home TV viewers that he hates "that weasel", and again in the season two finale ("The Double Date and The Last Day") saying that he'll hate himself "for this", after trapping the weasel and later seeing a machine that could destroy something.

In the "Notebooks and Math" episode, Cookie broke the fourth wall, singing a song about math. Cookie later broke the fourth wall by pointing at the camera while taking to his audience about "Cookie Confidence" in the "Shyness and Nicknames" episode, where Moze, after seeing Ned going out with Stacey, smiled at the camera, saying "Idiot." Moze broke the fourth wall earlier in the "Rumors and Photo Days" episode, saying to the viewers that she's not going to take any school photos at all.

This morning on turbonick.com, I was watching the enitre season premere of Ned's ("A New Grade and Dodgeball"), Coach Dirga--whose first name, "Joy", was finally revealed--broke the fourth wall for the first time on-screen and off-screen, to demonstrate the rules of dodgeball. Don-Don 19:03, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Major Clean-Up

Hey! Been working on a major clean up of this page and its related pages for the last few weeks... Expect it to change quite a bit! User:MellonCollie 17:46, 27 September 2006

So... Do we agree it's better this way? I think I prefer it without all those lists, but what does everyone else think? User:MellonCollie

[edit] Mo Collins

I think Mo Collins is part of the new season. She's the one in the computer screen teaching classes. Can anyone confirm this? -MF14

Yea, it's Mo Collins from MADtv....it even looks like her, plus it says on her wikipedia page she's the iTeacher[the teacher in the computer screen]Tori Miaami 06:42, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Starring Characters

For reference sake, only the three major kid charcters (and possibly Monroe and Gordy, but I'd prefer not to include them) are actually starring! Starring basically means if they appear in almost every episode and the show centres around them. The show does not centre around Suzie Crabgrass for instance... If we could refrain from including others... User:MellonCollie 17:46, 27 September 2006

Yes, I agree and they should be mentioned in the first paragraph instead of all of that date logic. --michael180 20:39, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Where?

Is the school really in California? In the Guide to Reading episode, a student gives a passionate book report on "Peyton Manning: a Colt to remember", indicating that it might be in Indiana. Is it actually stated anywhere that it's in Cal? -- Noclevername 22:51, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Uh, honey....you needs to read because it simply states in almost the beginning of the Ned's Declassified page that the school is set in California.....besides they use alot of pop culture refrences in this show anways, so you should look into that, k?Tori Miaami 06:47, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

yeah and besides that kid just might be a manning fan. maybe he moved to cali. KKIPPES 06:54, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] hiatus?

are they on hiatus? i saw a new show air for the past two weeks and one is coming next week. i don't think it is on hiatus. at least not anymore. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.77.54.140 (talk) 02:56, 12 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Confusing sentence

During The 2006-2007 year, which was the third season of the show, the teen comedy has been put on hiatus on theNick Network, and episodes could air on the network, to finish the third season, or (and possible) the show would be put on Hiatus, until the summer, as most Television programs are put on Hiatus, the teen television dramedy is still popular on TEENick, and airs reruns from Mondays through Sundays, briefly airing on Saturday and Sunday Mornings, and airs on the Weekday Afternoon, but the teenage sitcom is replaced by a new show named, The Naked Brothers Band, which the television movie of the same name, aired a week before the show premiered the next week, the reason may be for the show's hiatus is that the episodes (and if) was either mixed up, and not air until the summertime. along with another TEENick sitcoms, that aired throughout the years (Drake & Josh, All That, The Amanda Show, Kenan and Kel).

This really long paragraph is a really odd run-on sentence. Could someone perhaps clean it up or delete it entirely? --Fez2005 04:36, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Done. Inkbottle 03:11, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

lol maybe martin qwerly wrote it... KKIPPES 06:55, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Susie

Why does she have to be included in the show? Susie has nothing to do with Ned's declassified!!!! So There would not make a difference if she was not Included, Right? Dani preteen11 23:59, 2 March 2007 (UTC)Danipreteen11

uh, other than the fact she's the main character's girlfriend, a lot of the tips are about girls and how ned uses the tips to win suzies affection. KKIPPES 06:56, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Character's Resemblence to Other Characters in the show

Hi. Would it be safe to say, or does anyone know of any information stating the likeness of the show's main characters to minor characters? As the show progresses, the younger characters (Ned, Mose, Cookie) seem to begin resembling and taking traits of the older characters which play as possible close "outcomes" of them.

Ned - Gordy, Vice Principal Crubbs, Mr. Sweeney Mose - Coach Joy Dirga, iTeacher Cookie - Principal Alistair Wrighte

Some other characters appear to have connections and similarities to the adult teachers. Any information on their alikeness? I can't add because I have no verification other than the episode about Stress ^_^;; —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TheAdventMaster (talk • contribs) 16:30, 1 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Girlfriend or not?

Is Moze Jealous of Susie and Wants to be Ned's girlfriend? It looks like It in the show. Dani preteen11 23:55, 6 March 2007 (UTC)Danipreteen11

That would be speculation, which is not allowed on Wikipedia. Also, questions like that should be asked on discussion forums for this show, not here. Inkbottle 02:38, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

It is unknown whether Moze really likes Ned, sees Susie as a threat to her friendship with Ned, or Moze just sees it as another way to be competitive with Susie. I would tell you my predicition, but as Inkbottle pointed out, this should be factual. Iancurtis 20:13, 20 March 2007 (UTC)