Talk:Noise rock
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[edit] I'd like to drastically change the list of bands in this article
The definition of Noise Rock seems way too broad given the bands included in here. Bands like My Bloody Valentine and Deerhoof are certainly noisy at times, but categorizing them as that is just confusing.
The expository portion of the article I feel is accurate given my understanding of the genre, despite the non-encylopediac tone, but I would like to drastically changes. Does anyone support this?
Also I'm changing the section on Anal Cunt because they're largely a parody band. Brennsto 16:55, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
I saw Nirvana listed? I don't see where they are noise rock.
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- Yeah do it! Don't know who included all those grunge rock bands in that list.
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- The term is pretty arbitrary and the perception of noisiness in rock music changes over time. A lot of the bands on the AmRep label seemed noisy circa 1990, but now seem relatively tame. Jimi Hendrix and the MC5 sounded like noise when they brought feedback full-throttle into mainstream music in the late 60's, but are now classified as classic rock. And rock-and-roll's emergence in the early 50's seemed like noise to the older generation and many diehard classical music fans still dismiss it as such. Morganfitzp 23:56, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
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- I'm not sure you've understood the article, it's not about "noisy" rock music in general. It's about a fairly minor style called "noise rock" which gained some small popularity during the 90's and was influenced by hardcore punk, industrial, avant-garde and noise music. By the way, I don't think so many classical music fans "dismiss" rock music.
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- I go by whether it makes my ears start to bleed... But in all seriousness, I agree, most of these bands wouldn't go under "noise". 24.126.199.129 11:18, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Neil Young
Should Neil Young be added as an influence?
Much of his songs (IE "Hey Hey My My") in some ways predate noise. If anyone objects, that is fine.
- I think it was in 1991 that Neil Young toured with Sonic Youth as his opening act. I don't know that it exposed Sonic Youth to many Neil Young fans so much as it made Neil Young make sense to a lot of Sonic Youth fans. A lot of his work has been pretty noisy and experimental in a wide variety of styles (the dissonance of Rust Never Sleeps, the minimalism of his soundtrack to the film Dead Man), but is this "noise rock"? Does separating "noise rock" from just plain old "rock" that happens to be noisy exclude more commercially successful artists like Neil Young and Jimi Hendrix that have contributed so much stylistically to the genre? Is "noise rock" exclusive to the underground? And what happens when that underground surfaces to the pop charts? Morganfitzp 06:23, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] No-wave was noisey before Sonic Youth came around
I think the author is giving way too much credit to Sonic Youth on this one. Listen to DNA or Mars and tell me you don't hear Sonic Youth in the late 70's
FECAL MATTER
They should add fecal matter to this list since they are an "influencial" beggining for nirvana.
[edit] This page needs serious repair
You'd have to be insane to tell me Airiel and Daughters have even one stylistic similarity besides the fact that they use drums, guitars and basses...the list of bands includes anything from noise rock to math rock to shoegaze to mathcore, and many of these bands have absolutely nothing in common. It should be made clear as well that "noise" and "distortion" are not synonymous.
