Talk:Pál Kinizsi

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His name should be changed to Kinizsi Pál since he was a Hungarian not a Romanian. As much as I know this is not disputed by anybody.

[edit] Pavel Chinezul

Pavel Chinezul. "Chinez" is the local Banat variant of "cneaz", a Romanian institution of slavic origin. In medieval Hungary you will not find a cneaz who is not a Romanian. It's a bit strange that the modern Hungarians are claiming him. Medieval Hungary was not a national state and the multietnic medieval "Hungarians" are a part of the people that gave them, in this case Romanian people.

I read somewhere that his Hungarian name, "Kinizsi" is clearly borrowed from Romanian, because the regular Hungarian word for "Knyaz" is "kenéz", not "kiniz". bogdan 19:51, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Unless you can quote an exact reference that clearly proves his Romanian ethnicity or the authenticity of his name "Chinezul" (which, as I believe, also means "Chinese" in Romanian, the name change is unacceptable. 81.182.208.215 07:36, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

His name appears in contemporary documents as Paulo de Kynys. A standard noble name based on the name of an estate. Its translation is Paul of Kynys. Kinizs (currently Kiskinizs and Nagykinizs) is a villagename in Hungary, near Miskolc. So I did not see any evidence that his name is related to the word "cneaz" or he was of Romanian descent. 84.2.210.17 08:28, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

He was called after his estates, Kiskinizs and Nagykinizs as other Hungarian noblemen of the age. Zello 21:40, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

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