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Whosyourjudas (talk) 23:53, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] duplicate content in articles

Hi - I've been trying to chase down exactly how a problem occurs that seems to have affected you. This edit you made to the Wikipedia:Requested articles/Social Sciences and Philosophy page a few days ago ended up replicating the entire article although you were only editing a section. Do you happen to remember what happened? My guess is that you encountered an error, perhaps an "edit conflict", but I'd like to find out exactly what you did in response (for example, do you remember copying and pasting?). If you remember anything about this please let me know. Thanks. -- Rick Block 22:32, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Requested Articles on UK Politicians

You put in requests for articles on Leo Abse, one of the most interesting MPs of the 20th century, and David Penhaligon, one of those whose careers were cut tragically short. I've written them up though I don't doubt they could do with some revision. However your request for Henry Crookshanks appears to be based on a typo. There was a Harry Crookshank who served in the post-war Churchill government and I guess this was the man, but he is here already. His first name wasn't an abbreviation for Henry. David | Talk 23:11, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Islamic Human Rights Commission / edit war

Hi, this is quite a nuisance - do you have input here or there? --tickle me 23:54, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Guardian typeface

Hello. Can I just ask you about this edit which changed the typeface in the 1988–2005 Guardian logo from "Helvetica" to "News Gothic"? Over the course of the years I have frequently seen that logo described as being Helvetica, and never as News Gothic, so it surprised me. The type seems perfectly consistent with Helvetica Black to me, though I can't find a sample of News Gothic at such a heavy weight to compare it with, and I'm very much an amateur in typography. Do you have a source for this information? --rbrwr± 17:14, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Piers Morgan

Philip, you've in the past contibuted to the Piers Morgan article, and it's NOV. You might like to contribute to a POV debate recently raised in relation to that article, as it is likely to be rewritten shortly. Likewise you may not...the aim is to improve the quality of the article, regardless of opinion, input appreciated Coil00 00:49, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Linking years

Wikipedia:Manual of Style (links)#Dates and numbers: "chronological items such as simple years (for example, 1981) should be treated like any other words and linked only where they are particularly relevant to the topic." --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 20:49, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 2 June 2006 London terror raid

Hello. I agree that 250 is the more common estimate, at the time of writing, the figure was unclear, some sources said 250, some just said over 200. I picked the latter, and cited it, as it's true either way :) However, as you've changed it to 250, can you please cite that figure with your reference of choice, because as it stands, the reference attached to that sentence says something different to what's cited. (if you can find one that mentions 250 and the road closures together, you can remove the existing reference completely. I also suggest that "according to media reports" isn't really needed, as it will be clear from the citation where the figure is coming from. Regards, MartinRe 19:58, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Need contributions to culture article

Hello Philip - I saw your contributions to the page on abstract art. Some of its content overlaps with the nascent Culture of New York City article. It needs lots of revising and fleshing out. If you get a chance, check it out. Your contributions would be welcome. Wv235 22:34, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

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Hi. If you're going to tag talk pages with {{WPBiography}}, would you mind concentrating on dead persons? (Category:Dead people. I have a bot running on Category:Living people which can do the job you're doing with much less effort. Cheers. --kingboyk 17:31, 7 August 2006 (UTC) Or, assess some articles - that's perhaps a better job for a human! :) --kingboyk 17:32, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re-writing facts

Hi, just a note to say 'nice one' on the re-write to Peter Hitchens family section. It seemed odd when I first wrote down the facts but I couldn't think of a better way at the time - every day is a learning experience! Be well. Miamomimi 21:15, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Peter Hitchens

Oh thanks Philip (chuckles and shakes head) you know that when he reads the latest he's going to go nuts, and at me! I was making a perfectly valid point about male hypocrisy in society. Time to gird my loins I think! Miamomimi 17:20, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Biography Newsletter September 2006

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[edit] Citations

Actually, I've been quite battered by fellow Wikipedians (especially a rather annoying one in Argentina) when every fact, no matter how small, is not backed up with a citation. How do you feel about it? Wiki seems rather clear re requiring citations. And his Brûlé's birth surname does appear to be Brule, according to two published sources, including an interview with him in the Independent. 204.126.251.228 20:43, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Richard Littlejohn

Hi Philip, I noticed you reverted the Richard Littlejohn article. I edited the article in the first place primarily because of the large number of unsourced controversial statements which are not permitted for an article about a living person (WP:BLP). The resulting article does come across as a whitewash to a certain extent, but the fact is that any controversial statements about living people need to be backed up with reliable sources.

Please improve the article if you think it's a whitewash, but I'll continue to re-revert any wholesale reverts unless you can state, on the talk page, why I am wrong, and why the old version is in fact acceptable under WP:BLP. It was not my intention to whitewash Littlejohn, and I fully intend to add back controversial stuff once I've found proper sources for it (but not before). In fact it might even be better to do a complete re-write. 217.34.39.123 11:19, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merry Christmas

..and a happy New Year. Miamomimi 22:23, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Antony Lambton, Lord Lambton

You really should have discussed this move as it is disputed. It was not his courtesy title from 1970> and any further use was without any sanction or precedent and was a hotly contested matter in parliament. Alci12 10:58, 4 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Jade Goody

Hi Philip. Sorry to bother you but I do not agree with your deletion in Jade good. I agree that this is a controversial topic, but that should not stop us from putting the facts in the article. Infact facts are always better than wild rumors. If you do not put these facts in an encyclopedia article, then people will go to the blogs and forums to search for the actual comments and generally in doing so they will read the comments or rumors which are far worse than the facts. Actually most of her forums have now turned into hate forums so it is hard it differentiate fact from fiction from blogs etc. see {http://www.jadegoodyonline.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=221} and {http://www.jadegoodyonline.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=186}. Wikipedia has never censored its articles or comments etc if they are verifyable. see [1], Prince Henry of Wales, Lewinsky scandal or Tiananmen Square protests of 1989. so why should we remove it form this article. people should know what was actually said and what was not said so that they would not get biased by the article. I think that it becomes even more important in controversial topics like this. merely stating that Jade Goddy is racist is like doing injustice to her as it can be just ordinary bullying, which is common every where. reader should decide it himself. he does not need our help in that. If you do not think that this is correct then I guess that we should discuss the deletion with other wikipedians in the talk section before deleting it. Preetikapoor0 21:26, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Philip, Thanks a lot. Preetikapoor0 21:49, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Michael Rosen

I know Michael, who has told me more than once that he "is not, and never has been" a member of the SWP. He has certainly spoken at their Marxism event regularly, and appeared on other platforms. I can't cite any evidence, except a private email; but see for instance his comment on the peacepalestine weblog "I don't belong to any organisation or political party (though I stood for Respect in the elections a year or so ago and support them)". Since I knew that the statement was mistaken, I did not give it a "citation needed" tag, but simply removed it. --RolandR 13:50, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Citylightsgirl

Thank you for letting me know about your report on this complaint. I think you've behaved very calmly and reasonably.--ElenaZam 12:04, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Roy Jenkins' infobox

I have reverted your edits to Roy Jenkins. I realise that some of the information in the box was repeated at the bottom of the page, but this is the case for most pages with an infobox, just look at the George W. Bush or Tony Blair pages. The infobox is not there to give unique information that can not be found anywhere else on the page, it is there to instantly tell the reader the office/s the person occupied and when the person occupied it along with other important information relating to the individual. --Philip Stevens 09:25, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] George Orwell

I am sure you did not mean to, but the effect of your edit was to reinstate vandalism. There may be a problem with the edit conflict system, a while ago the same thing happened when I reverted vandalism to George W. Bush. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Viewfinder (talk • contribs) 14:53, 31 January 2007 (UTC).

Viewfinder, you last comment is probably correct, I thought I was removing something you had added. In any case, checking back a little, the spate of dubious edits all appear to have been removed. Philip Cross 15:19, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] My Israel Shamir Date of Birth query with RolandR

Actually, I believe that he was born on 11 June 1947. That at least is the date on his Swedish passport, in the name of Jöran Jermas (see copy at [2]). I have also removed the reference to 1950 slightly below, since this is not, as claimed, included in Shamir's own account on his home page. RolandR 18:43, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] BBC Music Magazine

The repeat of "magazine" in the lead is partly to allow it be wikilinked (as wikilinking part of the bolded name is poor style), though it's also the case that not everything that calls itself a magazine need be one. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 21:49, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Counterpunch Article

If you want to put this criticism in the article about Atzmon fine. It doesn't belong in a article about counterpunch. This is blatant POV pushing, I don't understand why I'm the only one who see's that. You should see some of the comments by the moron who originally posted this where he calls counterpunch a bunch of "Anti-semitic, Neo-Nazi Rascists", this guy is clearly not being neutral in adding this paragraph. This is some mad zionist going on a tirade against counterpunch. annoynmous 21:04, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Robert Cottage

I see you've been adding various details about him into the BNP article. As it's only early in the trial and there's likely to be plenty more details forthcoming, do you think a seperate Cottage article with a quick summary of Cottage in the BNP article would be better? Thanks. One Night In Hackney 12:40, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree. I don't think it's appropriate yet to add details from the trial to the BNP page. At most, we have two guys who were members of the BNP doing things that would not have been approved of by the BNP, and that's only if they are actually found guilty. (At time of writing, I assume the case is still going on.) Assuming they are guilty, they will probably deserve no more than a sentence or two as an example of the sort of person the BNP attracts, given that they met in its ranks. Emeraude 16:23, 15 February 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Helping out with the Unassessed Wikipedia Biographies

Seeing that you are an active member of the WikiBiography Project, I was wondering if you would help lend a hand in helping us clear out the amount of [unassessed articles] tagged with {{WPBiography}}. Many of them are of stub and start class, but a few are of B or A caliber. Getting a simple assessment rating can help us start moving many of these biographies to a higher quality article. Thank you! --Ozgod 21:46, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiproject Biography March 2007 Newsletter

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[edit] Janet Street-Porter

Hi there. With regards to your edit summary on the Janet Street-Porter article, just incase you aimed your comment at myself, I wasn't the one who reverted her previous name. By "corrected names" I meant changing Gordon Ramsey to Gordon Ramsay. It must have been some other editor who reverted the name before. But just incase you thought I had done it. Many thanks. Eagle Owl 13:17, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah I see! Thanks for your reply. Regards and happy editing! Eagle Owl 13:26, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

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