Talk:Promiscuous (song)

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[edit] Canadian charts are not the same as Billboard charts

The Canadian Singles Chart is based on CD single sales and nothing more. The Canadian BDS Airplay Chart is a very well-known chart because it's one of the only radio charts that does not use "recurrent play" to remove songs, which means that "Promiscuous" could re-enter in ten years' time. I'm surprised that Canadian charts are being treated exactly like Billboard charts, but they are very different; for example, the Canadian Dance Chart is not as well known as the airplay chart, but it's still in the article. This is likely because it's being used in the same way, but that's not right. Here it was claimed that non-Canadians should not include the airplay chart if their single did enter the Canadian Singles Chart. However, because it's clearly notable (and because Furtado is Canadian), its use here is appropriate. Velten 21:42, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Then please cite a source that says the airplay chart is "clearly notable", even more so than the singles chart. Nationality of the performer was the main reason I removed the airplay chart from the other article; it certainly wasn't the only reason. Not only do you already know this, but you've provided a complete misrepresentation of the diff to which you linked above. Extraordinary Machine 20:47, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

I never said that the airplay chart was more notable than the Canadian Singles Chart. Velten 21:31, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

It was not a misrepresentation. The latter part says "also, remove Canadian airplay chart, because Stefani isn't Canadian". Velten 21:34, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

You call the BDS Airplay Chart "a very well-known chart", but you haven't provided a source. My edit summary never mentioned anything about whether the single entered the Canadian Singles Chart. As well as harassing other users, you should be warned about disrupting articles by edit warring, which your ArbCom case prevents you from doing. This is particularly relevant as most of these issues were discussed to death at Talk:Cool (song) and other discussion pages. Extraordinary Machine 15:29, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

You've got to stop making excuses. I am not "disrupting" this page; I am expressing a view and trying to incorporate information. That's not "disruption"; you are clearly in an edit-war with me and it's you who's touting it because you are treating the Canadian charts in a similar fashion to Billboard, which has to stop. I am trying to insert a particularly relevant chart in Canadian music. Could I ask you why you are adding the dance chart over the airplay chart? Velten 16:26, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

If a country's official singles chart is available, then there's no need to include an airplay chart because one chart is enough to give the reader an indication of the song's popularity in a certain country (except with mentioning things such as genre-specific charts, i.e. the dance chart, which tells the reader with what audiences the song was popular). If there was a significant discrepancy between airplay and sales (and there isn't in this case), it should be discussed in the article. This has nothing to do with Billboard charts; don't set up straw man arguments. Extraordinary Machine 18:57, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Straw man arguments? I have no idea what you're talking about. However, since you've brought to attention the indication of a "genre-specific" chart, its inclusion should be fine. The BDS Airplay chart is generally pop-oriented and it's unlikely for an urban song to chart highly (this appears to mirror the Hot 100 Airplay, which is in favour of urban-oriented songs). "Promiscuous", which is urban-fused, peaked at number two for three consecutive weeks, which should meet the notability guidelines because it performed well on a chart that was difficult for it to peak highly on. Velten 16:23, 1 October 2006 (UTC)