Talk:Robert Schumann
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the legacy section seems a bit more like an editorial than an encyclopedia entry; i don't really know enough about schumann to make any useful changes, but just thought i'd point that out.
65.185.213.33 added this article and several others to the Pantheists category. Can anyone corroborate this, or is it simple vandalism? Charivari 08:16, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
- As with Friedrich Schiller, I propose that the category be removed until anonymous user returns with some documentation. --HK 15:39, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
- And since there has been no further discussion, I will proceed to do so. --HK 22:28, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
COPYRIGHT VIOLATION --This article seems to be copied word for word, with only minor alterations and additions, from [1]. It is evidently under copyright to Soylent Communications 2006. Surely, it should be deleted, yes? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.71.220.231 (talk • contribs) .
- No. They are both derived from a common source, the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica. The article at nndb.com is much closer to the original (the copyright is arguably bogus, since the 1911 EB is in public domain). The Wikipedia article has diverged significantly from the 1911 source, but retains some of the same wording. (It needs rewriting, but clearly no one has gotten around to it yet). Antandrus (talk) 04:04, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] When Schumann met Brahms
I've removed 'September' from the 1835-39 section: the month is given as October in the 'after 1850' section, and this is in fact correct. Brahms first called at Schumann's house on 30 September 1853 but he was not at home: his daughter Marie told Brahms to come back the next day. The first meeting was therefore on 1 October. This is in Eugenie Schumann's autobiography.Cenedi 11:06, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Front rank of German romantics
This phrase is vague enough to avoid the charge of 'peacocking'. If we say that Schumann was a great composer, and one of the greatest of German romantic composers, we merely say what every other reference work says. Viz. Larrousse: "Robert Schumann, the middle class boy from the provinces who was to become one of the greatest Romantic composers and one of the most outstanding geniuses in the history of music..."
[edit] Links
I have deleted some non-notable sites where there were brief redundant articles. Then I deleted a 404-error link from pianosociety.com/index.php (if anyone wish to report the correct one...?). Then the dlib.indiana.edu/variations/scores/song.html link was of very difficoult navigation (I couldn't find anything). Alegreen 15:39, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Clara Schumann
"Here the work is discussed by the imaginary characters Florestan (the embodiment of Schumann's passionate, voluble side) and Eusebius (his dreamy, introspective side) -the counterparts of Vult and Walt in Jean Paul's novel Flegeljahre; and a third, Meister Raro, is called upon for his opinion. Raro may represent either the composer himself, Wieck, or the combination of the two (ClaRA + RObert)." Cara is first mentioned here as "combination of the two". At this point, however, the reader doesn't know that this refers to Clara Schumann. Could something be done about this? I think Clara Schumann is notable enough as a person to be mentioned even in the first paragraph of the article, something along the lines: "He was the husband of Clara Schumann". Afterall, Robert Schumann is mentioned in the first sentence of the Clara Schumann article. ;-)--Wormsie 13:58, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
- I absolutely agree... she played unequivocally a major role on Robert's life, to the point that music attributed to either one was actually written by both. She was his source of inspiration (some mention his deteriorating sanity), and his early life was definitely shaped by the events related to her father's refusal to give her in matrimony to Robert. Something has to be done about this, or this will read like Martin Van Buren's autobiography... in which he didn't mention his wife, even once... Demf 15:52, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Complete list of works
Does anyone know where a full list of Schumann's works can be found? The link to the list of works gives only works WITH opus numbers. And what about works without opus numbers? I ask this because I got a piece of music (Schumann's) which instead of opus number has this - WoO 28. As I understand WoO means without opus. Please help!
- The online Grove (grovemusic.com, subscription access) has a complete list. Woo 28 is a bit of the Fantasiestücke that Schumann omitted from the original 1838 publication (he wrote it in 1837); it was only published in 1935. The other eight pieces of the Fantasiestücke he published as opus 12. Antandrus (talk) 19:38, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
You're right! I got it on a CD with 'Fantasiestücke op.12! Thanks!
