Talk:Succession crisis (Latter Day Saints)
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[edit] Other types of councils
- Finally, in 1844, Smith created the Council of Fifty to be the "living constitution" of the "Kingdom," which, in turn, sustained Smith as "Prophet, Priest and King." This council consisted of both Church members and non-Mormons who were prominent in the Nauvoo area. Smith also created the Anointed Quorum, an inner group of strong and trusted Church members (both male and female) who recieved Temple endowments and "the fulness of the priesthood" from Smith. Others who were given priesthood keys include those who served in the First Presidency, the Quorum of Three Witnesses, and the Associate President of the Church, Hyrum Smith.
I think this sentence is a little confusing here because the Council of Fifty and the Annointed Quorum are not part of the succession. However I did not just remove it because I think it helps the reader understand the confusion that existed. Example (talk • contribs) 04:42, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Just a quick note, I'll try to expand later - both of these groups were crucial in support of Brigham Young during the crisis. They consisted of Smith's most inner circle and en masse supported various individuals. These groups held keys (of the Spiritual and Physical kingdoms) which became the argumental factor in succession - who held keys.
- One item I should have included was the presidency of the Church in Zion (Whitmer, et al.) they were all excommunicated, but were given keys independent of Stakes of Zion of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. -Visorstuff 14:57, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Capitalization
Is the "Succession Crisis" really a proper name? I'm not sure why it's capitalized. Cool Hand Luke 08:15, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Also, I think the article should be titled Succession crisis (Mormonism), in accordance with the naming conventions. If there's not objections after a while, I'll change it. COGDEN 20:17, Jan 28, 2005 (UTC)
- I changed my mind. I think a better name would be Latter Day Saint succession crisis. Any comments?
I like Succession crisis (Mormonism) best. To me this is a Mormonism issue, not a Latter Day Saint issue. It also takes into account the cultural aspects. -Visorstuff 23:33, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I vote for Succession crisis (Mormonism). I think that's more in keeping with the standard that is being developed on Latter Day Saint related articles here. Sorry I named it wrong to begin with! --John Hamer 21:03, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Move to Succession crisis (Latter Day Saintism)?
Though the historical term "Mormonism" does apply to this time period, the first sentence says "Latter Day Saint" - a term used more often nowadays to include groups outside the modern "Mormon" (LDS) church. So, so call this the succession crisis of "Mormonism" implies that the modern "Mormon" position on the succession crisis is correct, which would violate NPOV. --Nerd42 23:39, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
- The existing procedure regarding this nomenclature at WP:LDS has been to include the entirety of Joseph Smith restorationism under the term Mormonism. This is a lot bigger than just this page -- try the talk page at WP:LDS. cookiecaper (talk / contribs) 23:46, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
- Why have the Latter Day Saints in there at all. Should Succession crisis redirect here, since there is no article with that name currently? Bytebear 01:46, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
