Talk:Sunday shopping

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[edit] Canada

Didn't the Canadian provinces adopt Sunday shopping at different times? How was that justified in wake of the Supreme Court's decision. I thought Ontario, for example, didn't have Sunday Shopping until the early 90's.

Here is when they adopted it and how:

British Columbia - 1985 - upon striking down of federal law, no other laws made (provincial law struck down 1980)

Alberta - 1985 - upon striking down of federal law, no provincial law existed at the time

Saskatchewan - 1988 - upon striking down of provincial law

Manitoba - 1993 - amendments of existing legislation

Ontario - 1992 - amendments of existing legislation (original law faced court challenge 1990, upheld 1991)

Quebec - 1992 - amendments of existing legislation

New Brunswick - 1996 (limited), 2003 (full) - amendments of existing legislation, exceptions added

Nova Scotia - no Sunday shopping

Prince Edward Island - 1992 (limited) - amendments of existing legislation

Newfoundland and Labrador - 1997 - amendments of existing legislation

• I'm not sure. Maybe they invoked the notwithstanding clause? --Westendgirl 07:30, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Although R. v. Big M Drug Mart said the closing laws are not valid federal law, it is a valid provinical matter. The leading case on this is R. v. Edwards Books Ltd., which said that a day of rest for service workers is perfectly fine. Although it may violate the charter it can be justified under section 1. --PullUpYourSocks 13:51, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

• I noticed that the legalizing of Sunday Shopping started in the west and is moving east. Not suprised at all. rasblue 00:31, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ireland

This page is wrong here in ireland tesco has had 24 hr opening 7 days a week since Christmas 2004

• So then change the entry and add a reference. A photo of the Tesco advert listing its 24/7 status would be great. rasblue 00:26, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nova Scotia

I think that the discussion of the plebiscite needs to be explored more. The question was flawed and confusing to voters, there was an obvious rural bias in the way the plebisicite was run (putting it on a municipal ballot which has low urban turnout and high rural turnout traditionally) and the fact that the urban centres voted in favor but the overwhelming rural turnout requires more indepth examination of the results. Additionally the majority of rural stores fall under the 4000 sq. ft rule so even though much of rural Nova Scotia voted against Sunday shopping they still can shop on Sundays and were voting with other political and religious blocs. If I get the chance I will add. Wonnkabe 14:06, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I hope you won't add any garbage like that to the article. First of all, the question was not confusing, it was rather simple and that is just an argument put forth by supporters of sunday shopping. Secondly, the fact that plebicite was tied to "a municipal ballot which has low urban turnout and high rural turnout traditionally" is irrelevant and certainly not a rural bias. If urbanites didn't vote, it was due to laziness, because they were not prevented from voting in any way. It also does not matter that "the urban centres voted in favor", it was a provincial plebicite, the results were not tallied based on an urban/rural division, just yes or no. So let's keep assumptions and unprovable assertions out of the article, because the don't belong in it. I'm not even going to bother with your "political and religious blocs" statement.--BoyoJonesJr 16:48, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

The question(s) on the ballot read as such:

Should there be Sunday shopping in retail businesses now not permitted to be open on Sunday?

   * Yes
   * No 

If there is to be Sunday shopping, should it be:

   * on every Sunday
   * only the six Sundays immediately before Christmas  

Therefore every voter has two options for two questions, giving four possible combinations:

   * No to Sunday shopping, but if you must, only open for the six Sundays before Christmas.
   * No to Sunday shopping, but if you must, open all year round.
   * Yes to Sunday shopping, but only the six Sundays before Christmas.
   * Yes to Sunday shopping all year round. 

Seems quite convoluted to me and I voted.

You're obviously a rural Nova Scotian who voted against yet it I ask you, is your local store open on Sunday? Do you shop on Sunday? What about purchase gas? Eat at a restaurant? Take a plane, train, bus or cab? Even our current backwoods Premiere was caught doing some Sunday shopping in Mabou. I think that the rural/urban split is the crux of this whole issue. All the rural stores fall under the 4000 sq ft rule and can therefore be opened which means every two-bit community can have Jim Bob's grocery open but those of us who live in the city are being punished for having fully stocked stores. I think that if this were as cut and dry a case as you try to make it seem we would not have the current legal battle between Sobeys and the province. Religious and political blocs have a lot to do with it. Those who live in smaller communities with the aforementioned opened stores can get milk and eggs on Sunday but still think they're going to heaven because they voted how their pastor told them to on the plebiscite. The whole thing is contrived and contradictory. I think the MacDonald government has realized that and will leave it to the courts to deal with, which will result in Sunday shopping being passed Wonnkabe 19:48, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

The plebicite was assuming the status quo, stores under 4000 sqft, restaurants, gas stations, pharmacies etc remaining open was the outcome of a no vote. But to argue with someone who cannot carry on a mature and adult discourse and is unable to avoid childish name calling would be useless. Just keep your POV crap out of the article. --BoyoJonesJr 19:19, 29 August 2006 (UTC)