Talk:The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson
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[edit] Vandalism
I just noticed that there was a whole line of 5s taking up a line of text. gonna remove it now. -mike
-UPDATE: i also found Jascha Heifetz link ruined, i repaired it.
[edit] Subsection instead of separate article?
This article seems well-written, but shouldn't it be a sub-section of either The Tonight Show or Johnny Carson? If we make an article devoted to Carson's version of the show, won't pages dedicated to the other three hosts also need to be created and maintained? Also, why isn't Jay Leno listed as one of the guest hosts? He hosted on Mondays toward the end of Johnny's time as host before being named as Johnny's successor. Isn't this significant?
At the very least, the article should be expanded--I smell a Request for Merger or Expansion coming. Telestylo 05:29, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
- I offered some comments about this topic in Talk:The Tonight Show. As I reviewed the articles that linked to the combined version of The Tonight Show I was amazed by how many of them are Carson-specific. Those references illustrate another reason for having the separate article. There's plenty of precedent for it being separate as well, such as Late Night with David Letterman and Late Night with Conan O'Brien being separate, and The Simpsons being separate from Matt Groening, to name two examples. 66.167.141.83 08:06, 1 October 2005 (UTC).
OK. I think Carson was so identified with "The Tonight Show" that he probably does need his own page. But, so do Steve Allen, Jack Paar (especially Paar), and Jay Leno, and eventually, Conan O'Brien. Also, the "Tonight Show" page itself will need to be reworked to be about the show more generally, with links to each of the pages about the individual hosts. Phew--more work to do! Still need to find out how many time Jay guest hosted before becoming host himself. Telestylo 19:48, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] "Full" list of guests?
The guest list is useful historically and much appreciated to be sure, but I can think of a couple of things wrong with it: first, it should probably be its own article unto itself, since the show spanned 30 years and included thousands of individual guests. Second: the list as it stands is not "full" and may never be because of the number of episodes which were lost, so for now, I'm just changing the name of the sub-section to "List of guests." But attention needs to be paid to this issue because the list, as good and well-researched as it is, has horribly enlengthened the article. Telestylo 07:05, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
Moving the list out of the article ... as Telestylo points out, this list should be in a separate article. I'd also suggest it be organized by date so that the list is easier to verify. 66.167.138.24 08:14, 5 December 2005 (UTC).
The list is next to useless without dates of appearances, at least for the first appearance. Memory plays tricks. Maybe the guest appeared on Jack Paar, or Merve Griffin, or David Letterman. TV Guide is a guide to who was scheduled to appear, but there were many cancellations. 71.228.11.251 04:14, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Suggestion about guest list below
This list of celebs is long enough to constitute a Wikipedia category: Tonight Show (SJC?) Guests. Is there a bot to alphabetize it in the meantime?
Schweiwikist 21:09, 1 April 2006 (UTC) (hiyo!)
[edit] List of guests
The following is a partial list of individuals who appeared on the show. It is currently not in any particular order.
- Barry White
- Helen Hayes
- Bette Midler
- Robin Williams
- Richard Harris
- Roseanne Barr
- Tony Bennett
- Mel Brooks
- Jack Lemmon
- Clint Eastwood
- Bob Hope
- David Letterman
- Bob Newhart
- Farrah Fawcett
- Steve Martin
- Bill Cosby
- Phyllis Hyman
- Stevie Wonder
- Cathy Guisewite
- Pierce Brosnan
- Geena Davis
- Tom Hanks
- Vanessa L. Williams
- Michael Douglas
- Elizabeth Taylor
- Tim Allen
- Melanie Griffith
- Drew Carey
- Joe Mantegna
- Jay Leno
- Kathy Bates
- Anjelica Huston
- Lea Salonga
- Jason Priestley
- Richard Crenna
- Richard Marx
- Halle Berry
- William Shatner
- Bill Maher
- Jamie Lee Curtis
- Katherine Helmond
- Ray Romano
- Glenn Close
- Harry Anderson
- Jim Carrey
- Julia Louis-Dreyfus
- Garry Marshall
- Lily Tomlin
- Fran Drescher
- Teri Garr
- Joey Lawrence
- CeCe Winans
- Carol Leifer
- James Garner
- Pete Rose
- Pat Benatar
- Emma Thompson
- John Stamos
- Lesley Ann Warren
- Madeline Kahn
- Rosalind Chao
- Charles S. Dutton
- Morissey
- Robert Townsend
- Sean Astin
- John Candy
- Maureen O'Hara
- Michael Landon
- JoBeth Williams
- Sylvester Stallone
- Dave Thomas
- Roger Moore
- Sarah Jessica Parker
- Mayim Bialik
- Cheryl Ladd
- Shelley Winters
- Sissy Spacek
- Styx
- Judith Ivey
- Julia Duffy
- Oleta Adams
- Dwight Yoakam
- Kirstie Alley
- John Travolta
- Kate Jackson
- Patty Loveless
- John Denver
- Angela Lansbury
- Will Smith
- Rita Rudner
- James Belushi
- Emilio Estevez
- Laura Branigan
- Bob Saget
- Tom Cruise
- Blair Brown
- Jerry Seinfeld
- Dweezil Zappa
- Judith Hoag
- Lorrie Morgan
- B.B. King
- Diane Lane
- Valerie Harper
- Lee Trevino
- Linda Ronstadt
- Bea Arthur
- Magic Johnson
- Belinda Carlisle
- Ellen DeGeneres
- Michael Bolton
- Mary Stuart Masterson
- Valerie Bertinelli
- Lorna Luft
- Parker Stevenson
- Stephanie Beacham
- Jane Fonda
- K.D. Lang
- Sam Kinison
- Emmylou Harris
- Maria Conchita Alonso
- Sid Caesar
- Lynn Redgrave
- Arnold Schwarzenegger
- Ellen Greene
- Mary Tyler Moore
- Bill Clinton
- Hall & Oates
- Raquel Welch
- Martin Short
- Bette Davis
- Robin Williams
- Jack Paar
- Connie Sellecca
- Harvey Korman
- Robert Klein
- Corbin Bersen
- Joan Embrey
- Mary Hart
- Alan Thicke
- Tyne Daly
- Jackie Collins
- John Davidson
- Joseph A. Wapner
- Kirk Cameron
- Susan Sullivan
- Gloria Estefan
- Emma Samms
- Dave Coulier
- Brian Bosworth
- Isabella Rossellini
- Jimmie Walker
- Frankie Avalon
- Annette Funicello
- Woody Harrelson
- Art Garfunkel
- Dennis Miller
- Madonna
- Ray Charles
- Eddie Murphy
- Helen Hunt
- Dolly Parton
- Whoopi Goldberg
- Billy Vera
- Seth Green
- Louise Mandrell
- William Shatner
- Patrick Duffy
- Steve Allen
- Tony Danza
- Alyssa Milano
- Danny Pintauro
- George Carlin
- Maureen Stapleton
- Carmen McRae
- Garry Shandling
- Victoria Jackson
- Jason Bateman
- Don Novello
- Luther Vandross
- Liza Minnelli
- John Larroquette
- Joe Garagiola
- Brad Garrett
- Andy Griffith
- Liberace
- Linda Ellerbee
- Dolph Lundgren
- Peter Allen
- Carrie Fisher
- Joan Rivers
- Tom Jones
- Rue McClanahan
- Martin Mull
- Priscilla Presley
- Nancy McKeon
- Julia Child
- Rex Harrison
- Liv Ullmann
- Howie Mandel
- Lou Rawls
- Ed Begley Jr.
- Oprah Winfrey
- "Weird Al" Yankovic
- Natalie Cole
- David Steinberg
- Lynda Carter
- Patty Duke
- Cher
- Betty Buckley
- Morgan Fairchild
- Lucille Ball
- Sandy Duncan
- Betty White
- Vincent Price
- Little Richard
- David Brenner
- Suzanne Somers
- Joe Piscopo
- Twiggy
- Drew Barrymore
- Paul McCartney
- Annie Potts
- Richard Pryor
- Michele Lee
- Flip Wilson
- Marlo Thomas
- Sheena Easton
- James Coco
- Rita Moreno
- Don Rickles
- Susan Sarandon
- Peter Ustinov
- Ruth Westheimer
- Lorenzo Lamas
- Eileen Brennan
- Erma Bombeck
- Donna Summer
- Mel Blanc
- Ali MacGraw
- Henry Winkler
- Buddy Hackett
- Brooke Shields
- Joan Collins
- Orson Welles
- Lena Horne
- Erin Gray
- Steve Lawrence
- Al Hirt
- Leslie Uggams
- Shelley Long
- Ben Vereen
- Robert Blake
- Sammy Davis Jr.
- James Stewart
- Charlton Heston
- Angie Dickinson
- Lance Burton
- Reba McEntire
- Dick Cavett
- Candice Bergen
- Doug Henning
- Charles Grodin
- Helen Gurley Brown
- Elizabeth Ashley
- Ann Jillian
- Gary Coleman
- Fred Travalena
- Dick Van Patten
- Tina Turner
- Barbara Eden
- Charles Nelson Reilly
- Carl Reiner
- Elton John
- Gore Vidal
- Robert Mitchum
- Loni Anderson
- Marty Feldman
- Rodney Dangerfield
- Barry Manilow
- Crystal Gayle
- David Bowie
- Peabo Bryson
- Roberta Flack
- Gladys Knight
- Dorothy Stratten
- Ricardo Montalban
- Nell Carter
- Marsha Mason
- Mac Davis
- Kenny Rogers
- Melissa Manchester
- Joe Namath
- Plácido Domingo
- Richard Dawson
- Sister Sledge
- Art Carney
- Marvin Hamlisch
- Lawrence Welk
- Peggy Lee
- Charo
- Luciano Pavarotti
- Phyllis Diller
- Stockard Channing
- Michelle Phillips
- Rich Little
- Joyce Brothers
- Hugh Hefner
- Jim Henson (as Kermit the Frog)
- Frank Oz (as Fozzie Bear)
- Dick Van Dyke
- Elliot Gould
- Bobbie Gentry
- Pat Boone
- Ellen Burstyn
- Anthony Quinn
- Paul Williams
- Bernadette Peters
- McLean Stevenson
- John Ritter
- Burt Reynolds
- Billy Crystal
- Shelley Hack
- The Carpenters
- Kip Addota
- Jose Feliciano
- Lola Falana
- Dick Shawn
- Andy Kaufman
- Mary Livingstone
- Bert Convy
- Cybill Shepherd
- Helen Reddy
- Carl Sagan
- Louis Armstrong
- Dizzy Gillespie
- Clyde McCoy
- Don Herbert
- Carla Emery