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[edit] 'Vero Man'

I think the material on 'Vero Man' probably does have a place in this article, so I'm re-adding it. Any thoughts on this from 67.151.178.66 or McNeight? Can we also be clearer about what is meant by 'prior to the Ice Age'? I presume this actually means 'prior to the end of the Wisconsin glaciation', since prior the whole glaciation would mean before 70,000 BCE. --Nick Boalch ^?!? 19:57, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

I've added a little extra from what was the seperate Vero Man page which I found and have turned into a redirect to here. In doing so I found the two to be essentially the same, someone here having wisely edited out the plug to 'Glenn R. Swift' and the singing of his own praises. SynergyBlades 16:03, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Dear Sirs:

What is wrong about including my name about the discovery? The find was all but forgotten until I wrote the story. Specifically for my efforts in writing this piece, I won the 1999 Florida Magazine Association's Bronze Award for Excellence in Writing/In-Depth Reporting. Since that time I have lectured at a number of institutions about the find and have been interviewed on the radio many times as well.

With regard to including my website, I did so for it provides access to the full text of this fascinating discovery. If you believe that is inappropriate, fine...but to remove all references to my name appears to be nothing short of vindictive.

Your response would be appreciated,

Glenn R. Swift

Glenn - the paragraph [1] looks totally out of place in the article, especially considering you wrote it about yourself; it comes across as self-aggrandizing combined with the personal website plug as well as description of your award (irrelevant to this article) and how it's receiving national attention (again, this is to do with your written article, not Vero Beach). It looks like something that would be more appropriate on a page about Glenn Swift or something out of a biography. In short, it's not encyclopedic on a page about Vero Beach. If everyone went around putting bits of their related work on the Wiki with self-advertisements it'd be cluttered. It may also be in violation of the No original research policy of Wikipedia.

In addition I might add that whilst it may not seem 'fair' to you that your name was removed though the first paragraph remained, note that of all the tens or hundreds of thousands of editors none require their name to be visible per each article they edit. The first paragraph remains factually correct and yet throughout the Wiki no-one requires their name to be written after what they write (as the text at the bottom of each edit page says: "Please note: If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly or redistributed by others, do not submit it.").

I would concede that a link to your page or specific article at the bottom in the External Links would be related and hence acceptable; your article is infact listed in the Sources section so there are legitimate references there - you are cited.

SynergyBlades 10:58, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Glenn, I've tweaked the page slightly adding reference to renewed interest in Vero Man which also points to the Source cited at the bottom. I cannot however see much point in adding a link to your homepage at the bottom; there is nothing further on your website about Vero Man that would add to an encyclopedia entry. As your name is in the Source article already, it makes no sense to add a personal webpage reference, especially in an encyclopedia. SynergyBlades 11:35, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

I appreciate you taking the time to explain your position.

Sincerely, Glenn R. Swift

Glenn, I am kind of curious why it is not mentioned that it was later dismissed as the "Vero Man" because it was a giant Solth? Also, the story was not forgotten by all , as i am a gay bitch