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[edit] White Supremacists

To say that this flag is used soley by white supremacists is definently false!! Someone needs to change this, or I will. It is used commonly by Asatruer/Heathen and Germanic Pagans in general.

Google turns up only white supremacist sites, as far as I can tell. Please provide some support for your assertion that other groups use this particular flag. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 15:10, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

How about FOTW's Vinland. Oh, and Type O Negative are not in any way White Supremacist (note member Josh Silver). White Supremacists also use Celtic crosses, runes, and modern German flags. None of which are intrinsically racist either. I cannot confirm who first created this flag. All I can confirm, is that white supremacists will co-opt all sorts of things, much to the chagrin of those who legitimately claimed them in the first place. I'm not Ásatru or an obsessive Type O Negative fan. Just bemused that this was 'flagged' as racist! Khirad 16:36, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

FOTW is not always a reliable source. I have added info on Type O Negative but they are the only non-white supremacist group that appears to use this flag. I would be more than happy to change the description to include Asatru groups and whoever else, but you need to give some kind of citation for it. So far, as I said, I've seen only neo-Nazi groups (and, for some reason, the band). Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 17:27, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Nonsense, a google search will get you mainly Type O Negative references - including explainations about the origins of the flag by the group, people talking about the flag and various merchants, such as this one[1] as well as some Neo-Nazi groups but to claim the flag is solely used by Type O Negative and said groups is pretty shoddy. :bloodofox: 23:25, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

To deny the connections of this flag with white supremacism in the US and Canada is ludicrous. Moreover, the Vinnland "info page" reads like a thinly-veiled racist screed about the oppression of white, blond haired, blue eyed Aryans. I wonder who the "capitalist oppressors" are? Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 16:24, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh paranoia. First of all, if you bothered to look around the site, you would find nonsensical, tongue in cheek references to "pale skinned, black haired people are spread throughout the lands of America" as "Vinnlanders" - an obvious reference to the band and their fans. There is nothing serious about this website. The "capitalist oppressor" references are in keeping with the band's common usage of Communist imagery.. So much for white supremacism. :bloodofox: 21:47, 14 February 2007 (UTC)