Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film Music
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This project has such a broad spectrum of work that will go with it; the creation of articles - for scores and soundtracks and film composers primarily, and categories that are necessary to organize articles.
Here is a list of what I humbly, though I am not an avid score follower and have only a rudimentary understand of the area, think are some of the most necessary current film composer articles;
- Craig Armstrong, Klaus Badelt, Marco Beltrami, Elmer Bernstein (died 2004), Leonard Bernstein (died 1990), Danny Elfman, Lisa Gerrard, Michael Giacchino, Philip Glass, James Horner, Michael Kamen (died 2003), the various Newmans (particularly Thomas Newman), James Newton Howard, Clint Mansell, Howard Shore, John Williams, Hans Zimmer and many others but as you can see, they are all blue linked - articles created. In most every film composer articles they will have a section, a list, of films they have scored. These sections will usually have links to the films pages. For example
Klaus Badelt article:
but it really should look like this;
- [ [ Music From Miami Vice (film)|Miami Vice music ] ] - Miami Vice
- [ [ Music of Constantine|Constantine music ] ] - Constantine
- [ [ Ned Kelly soundtrack|Ned Kelly music ] ] - Ned Kelly
or something along those lines - the music is the first thing and the film second. Just an idea.
Now also we have the categories;
We need to work out a way to make all the articles the same format - a guide to writing articles for scores, a system that makes all the articles as presentable, informative, clean and coherent and as possible. Alexbonaro 07:07, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] What can we put in an article?
Thinking about it. What can we put in these articles? The majority of films do not warrant music articles on the same level that Star Wars or Lord of the Rings do. Trilogies are able to be written on because there is a large body of music to write about but for most films there would be little to write about the scores. What could you say about say The Fountain score... you could mention the instruments and some musical elements and give a track listing but that would be about it. Is this worth it? Alexbonaro 11:51, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
- Well, there are things one can put. First off, factual observations, such with say, Iris can easily talk about its violin solos, not to mention the soloist. Or for The Abyss there's clearly room to talk about the varience between the low key mostly-electronics of the majority of the film with the bold orchestral music at the end. And whatever verifiable sources one can find regarding opinionated matters is always welcome. A good example I cam across recently is Gremlins, where the filmmakers were inspired by Goldsmith's theme and changed the film a bit to reflect its circus music quality. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 12:53, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
- I guess so. Do you think we should go about making each score article as a team? By that I mean, each person who is part of the project assesses each article made by members. Alexbonaro 07:30, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Template
I'm having trouble figuring out how to get the talk page template to work. I don't know if anyone here has experience with that. SUBWAYguy 17:52, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
- I don't know, sorry. Alexbonaro 07:31, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
- I think I have it working now SUBWAYguy 03:47, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
- Ok, I just created Template:Film Music. So now, all you need to do is put {{Film Music|class=}} on article talk pages and that will have the same effect, except it will be much simpler to implement it.--NPswimdude500 04:09, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
- I also created Template:User WikiProject Film Music, a userbox for project members' userpages. This can be modified any way you want it (colors, etc.). It also needs an image to accompany it.--NPswimdude500 04:32, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks mate! Alexbonaro 12:46, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
- I think I have it working now SUBWAYguy 03:47, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Article layout
One of the most important things I think is a reasonably standardized layout for articles. We should decide now what articles will look like. Each would include a introductory paragraph of course, a track listing - but would these track listings have descriptions of each track? How much information will we include about the actual films? Any? or do we leave that completely to the film's article itself? What do ya think Melodia? Alexbonaro 07:49, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Track Lists
I would like to help out anyway I can, but I'm not a 100% sure how this will work. I have a question about track lists though. What if there's a bootleg album, like what was done with the Matrix sequels, that contains the entire score rather than the selections on the commercial release; which track list should be included? Personally, I say both lists should be. Tebor 08:20, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
- No, unauthorized releases shouldn't be mentioned in individual articles (a mention of their existence in more the more broad articles around soundtracks and film scores should be ok), except maybe in cases where it can be sourced that they affected something, like if anyone can find an official statement from Varese they they never issued an OST of Marnie because of the bootleg, or whatever. Remember, WP isn't a repository for EVERYTHING. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 12:05, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
